Brexit, for once some facts.
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It may have been said before but I believe that Mrs May has colluded with the EU to present this 'deal'' at the last minute to panic us into accepting it. I hesitate to call it a deal. Seems more to me like a surrender, and in the history of us being in the EU we are once again being sold down the river. The only saving grace is that it looks like it won't get through parliament, but who knows what will happen then
In the long list of replies this has got to be your weakest one, panic has set in i see..
so, err.... pray tell how much was the fine, who was imprisoned, if anyone over this??!!
*I`ll wait*
Tom
Not Guilty M'lord, The leavers come on here, and because they can't argue pragmatically and convincingly that Brexit is a good idea they look for someone to blame.
They just want to vent their disappointment over Brexit not being all Land of Milk and honey and Unicorns, and since they can't accept it was their fault for voting for the mad idea, what little imagination they possess has conjured up the notion because we advised against it,we sort of put a "Hex" on it, and if we would all roll over and praise it,like the phoenix it would rise from the ashes
The truth is that it never needed any sabotage from remainers to prevent it having any chance of being viable
there may be a bit of panicking us but I don't think that she colluded with the EU. Donald Tusk did warn her about impending problems she would get when the deal has to be approved by our parliament because DC left her with a wafer thin majority. That's why she had to call the 2017 GE. She lost that GE and her crew was propped up by the brexiters. They thought rightly that they owned her and made no secret their threat to bring her team down if she was not willing to negotiate a Canada deal. However, she needed the DUP and their price is no border between the UK, NI and the ROI. That's not new and just impossible. The EU said so many times.
She will have to renege on her promises either to the brexiters in her party or to the DUP. She chose the DUP on the basis that it's easier to negotiate and the brexiters will string her up in any case.
You may find this odd, but while I don't want it to either,I fear it is going to do just that as there is such an attitude of fear there and any straw that prevents a Labour Government under Corbyn will be demanded by the backers who paid such huge sums of dodgy money to back Brexit
Their plan now is clearly this ,ratify the agreement with the EU and after a while renege on the agreement and unilaterally pull out at a time and date to suit them
Just look at the way when push comes to shove the likes of Gove and Boris make lots of noise and actually do nothing.
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This really matters - DUP abstaining on Budget votes
The DUP’s 10 MPs will be abstaining on pretty much every finance bill vote tonight, I understand. This is to put the government on warning that the party is close to ripping up the “confidence and supply” agreement that allows @theresa_may to govern. This is a serious blow to the PM’s authority. And is all down to the DUP’s pessimism that the PM will amend in any significant way the EU Withdrawal Agreement that it sees as driving a regulatory wedge between Northern Ireland and Great Britain. And if Tory MPs see their industrial action as increasing the risk of an imminent general election, they will launch that long-planned and delayed coup against her pronto.
It really doesn't matter any more, the vote on the withdrawal agrement isn't solely relying only on the Conservatives is it?
And launching a coup against her would end up inevitably with a General election .
Having said that I don't want the agreement ratified either.
Lots of hot air and only 4 dozen letters required…..and they can't even manage that!
Tom
tommie is that a typo?
DUP’s pessimism that the PM will amend in any significant way
Shouldn't that be "wont" ?
Just asking....
She was on the panel in Question Time at Milford Haven - and was incredibly annoying then. Her smug "I've prepared my answer to that question" look was yuck. Sure it's not directly brexit, but am jolly glad I don;t work for any of them.
Energy minister Claire Perry accused of swearing and shouting at staff
Unions write to top official at BEIS department saying claims were raised by civil servants
Trade unions have written to the top official in the business department to raise concerns about claims that the energy minister, Claire Perry, has sworn and screamed at civil servants, the Guardian understands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/19/energy-minister-claire-perry-accused-of-swearing-and-shouting-at-staff-unions-civil-servants
Energy minister Claire Perry accused of swearing and shouting at staff
Unions write to top official at BEIS department saying claims were raised by civil servants
Trade unions have written to the top official in the business department to raise concerns about claims that the energy minister, Claire Perry, has sworn and screamed at civil servants, the Guardian understands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/19/energy-minister-claire-perry-accused-of-swearing-and-shouting-at-staff-unions-civil-servants
Clean water,blue flag beaches,CE standards,common engineering standards (EN 15194),employment rights....don’t forget the Grenfel Tower cladding did not meet EU standards.....the list is endless.
I sell compressors,the EU had a team harmonising all the European standards so that we could sell a common standard units amongst all 28 standards,the U.K. standard could have been developed by Fred Dibnah,very out of date and tested by out of date engineers.
We are going to miss the standards developed by the EU,with a bit of luck we will stay aligned with them.
KudosDave
We're on page 1944.
The tide my friends is turning in this Nations favour.
Hold fast.
The tide my friends is turning in this Nations favour.
Hold fast.
Claire Perry is a loud mouth who dominates conversations,she should have been told to shut up on Question Time,the only reason she is supporting the PM is in the hope that a top job would come her way.
The Labour guy,Barry Gardner?, was equally annoying,he was stuck on 33 rpm and turned every conversation round to his wish for a GE.
KudosDave