Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

Just listening, admittedly rather half-awake, to a program about partition of India. Could be salutary to be reminded of the effects of that secession both at the time and thereafter.

Of course, that partition was different in so many ways. Nonetheless, we should be so extremely careful to avoid political expediency resulting in bad outcomes.

 

[oyster]

Since it's sister paper the Sunday Times was successfully sued over these lies the Times is pushing it's luck in a legal sense by printing them again.

But what legal basis exists for action once the subject has died?

 

[oldgroaner]

Just listening, admittedly rather half-awake, to a program about partition of India. Could be salutary to be reminded of the effects of that secession both at the time and thereafter.

Of course, that partition was different in so many ways. Nonetheless, we should be so extremely careful to avoid political expediency resulting in bad outcomes.

Shades of the Pirates Code methinks..
"Careful?
What has careful to do with it?
It's more of a guideline really,
We're all Brexiteers now
Aint we?"

if you know what I mean

 

[oldgroaner]

But what legal basis exists for action once the subject has died?

Which is what they are hoping to exploit of course

 

[oyster]

Let us hope that TM (or any PM of the day) somehow doesn't get to hear of this USA proposal:

In future disasters, US citizens may receive messages on their phones directly from Donald Trump, as the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) begins its testing of a system that allows the president to send a message to most US mobile phones.

(Despite that coming from the live feed about the Carolinas storm in the Guardian, which paper some have severely criticised, I am so glad I didn't have to resort to the Times for a quote today.)

Mind, UK ones might at least be in reasonably proper English and typed and spelled correctly.

 

[Woosh]

Which is what they are hoping to exploit of course

the article carefully avoided making the accusation directly.
Dog whistle politics comes to mind.

 

[oldgroaner]

Let us hope that TM (or any PM of the day) somehow doesn't get to hear of this USA proposal:

In future disasters, US citizens may receive messages on their phones directly from Donald Trump, as the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) begins its testing of a system that allows the president to send a message to most US mobile phones.

(Despite that coming from the live feed about the Carolinas storm in the Guardian, which paper some have severely criticised, I am so glad I didn't have to resort to the Times for a quote today.)

Mind, UK ones might at least be in reasonably proper English and typed and spelled correctly.

What a wonderful opportunity and the ultimate challenge for a schoolkid hacker.
This idea is utterly fraught with stupidity.
Emergency Messages should not be from any individual.

 

[Woosh]

Just listening, admittedly rather half-awake, to a program about partition of India. Could be salutary to be reminded of the effects of that secession both at the time and thereafter.

Of course, that partition was different in so many ways. Nonetheless, we should be so extremely careful to avoid political expediency resulting in bad outcomes.

apparently, leave side would like to make the comparison between brexit and the situation that NZ found itself in when the UK joined the Common Market. The UK took something like 40% of NZ's exports until then. After the event, NZ was forced to find new openings elsewhere and it found new markets in Australia, China and other Asian countries. It eventually did better than before.

 

[oyster]

What a wonderful opportunity and the ultimate challenge for a schoolkid hacker.
This idea is utterly fraught with stupidity.
Emergency Messages should not be from any individual.

Let us imagine, with due horror, that there is a CREEP (apt in this case). As we approach the presidential election, DT's horrible hands would be reaching out to his mobile to send such tweets with an uncontrollable action reminiscent of Dr Strangleove's arm.

It is a truly appalling idea.

 

[oyster]

apparently, leave side would like to make the comparison between brexit and the situation that NZ found itself in when the UK joined the Common Market. The UK took something like 40% of NZ's exports until then. After the event, NZ was forced to find new openings elsewhere and it found new markets in Australia, China and other Asian countries. It eventually did better than before.

NZ has ever after felt shabbily treated - and understandably so. That event will never be forgotten in the relationship between UK and NZ.

 

[oldgroaner]

apparently, leave side would like to make the comparison between brexit and the situation that NZ found itself in when the UK joined the Common Market. The UK took something like 40% of NZ's exports until then. After the event, NZ was forced to find new openings elsewhere and it found new markets in Australia, China and other Asian countries. It eventually did better than before.

"Eventually" is a dangerous word, things can go very badly wrong in the interim period

 

[oldgroaner]

NZ has ever after felt shabbily treated - and understandably so. That event will never be forgotten in the relationship between UK and NZ.

Not a good spot to get a favourable trade deal with?

 

[oldgroaner]

Let us imagine, with due horror, that there is a CREEP (apt in this case). As we approach the presidential election, DT's horrible hands would be reaching out to his mobile to send such tweets with an uncontrollable action reminiscent of Dr Strangleove's arm.

It is a truly appalling idea.

And here it is! (won't embed)
The Hurricane is
"
Trump Says Hurricane Florence Is Big and Wet
President Trump's warning to the Eastern Seaboard about the dangerous upcoming hurricane: 'It's tremendously big and tremendously wet.'"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1040153557188661248

Nice to have such a helpful message?

 

[Woosh]

NZ has ever after felt shabbily treated - and understandably so. That event will never be forgotten in the relationship between UK and NZ.

where is AKW? he does not say much recently.

 

[oldgroaner]

Brexit Graffiti

Alas it will go right over the top with many!

 

[Woosh]

Brexit Graffiti

Alas it will go right over the top with many!

being equals is greater than divided?

 

[oldgroaner]

being equals is greater than divided?

Well I did warn you.........

 

[Woosh]

it does not fit in with the 'sovereignty' argument though.
some people take comfort in believing that the EU is a leaky boat.

 

[flecc]

In future disasters, US citizens may receive messages on their phones directly from Donald Trump, as the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) begins its testing of a system that allows the president to send a message to most US mobile phones.

Verbal Twitter.
.

 

[flecc]

apparently, leave side would like to make the comparison between brexit and the situation that NZ found itself in when the UK joined the Common Market. The UK took something like 40% of NZ's exports until then. After the event, NZ was forced to find new openings elsewhere and it found new markets in Australia, China and other Asian countries. It eventually did better than before.

They did better because they had the food (chiefly lamb*) to sell and a huge rapidly expanding Chinese market for that food.

We don't have any remotely comparable equivalence.

* At the time NZ had five sheep for every human!
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