Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Let’s hope Jean Claude’s ‘bad back’ doesn’t play him up before the speeches tomorrow....
Perhaps he could quote Bojo in his speech?

Something about "Clearing the Decks" would seem appropriate re Brexit and future integration, don't you think?
 

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Let’s hope Jean Claude’s ‘bad back’ doesn’t play him up before the speeches tomorrow....
Well he would really have to struggle to say anything complimentary about the way our set of bumbling idiots have attempted to lie, cheat , blackmail, threaten and con in the so called Brexit negotiations, would he?

Not a man among them even begins to qualify as inadequate.
They are all uniformly utter Failures.
 

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The Express today have taken up Clairvoyance
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BREXIT BREAKTHROUGH: Rees-Mogg reveals SOLUTION to Irish border as pressure HEAPED on EU
PROPOSALS for breaking the Brexit negotiation deadlock over the Irish border will be unveiled today by leading Tory Eurosceptics.

Classic! Jackass rides again...
 

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Again in the Express
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‘Shoppers to enjoy Brexit price cuts as farming rethink brings cheap food’
FOOD prices will tumble after Brexit making supermarket shopping more affordable for millions, families were promised last night. Economists said consumers would immediately feel the benefit with expensive tariffs scrapped on a host of non-EU products like cheese, beef, fruit and coffee – cutting the cost of a basket of groceries


Minford of course is the Economist involved
 

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Again in the Express
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‘Shoppers to enjoy Brexit price cuts as farming rethink brings cheap food’
FOOD prices will tumble after Brexit making supermarket shopping more affordable for millions, families were promised last night. Economists said consumers would immediately feel the benefit with expensive tariffs scrapped on a host of non-EU products like cheese, beef, fruit and coffee – cutting the cost of a basket of groceries


Minford of course is the Economist involved
Even if it were true, we have seen so many ways in which pursuing the lowest price ends up being so very expensive.

With specifics, why should we be so keen on lower prices for non-EU cheese and beef? Two products that we can and do produce in signficant quantities.

Just how will (all too often brexit-voting) farmers feel if their produce is undercut by these cheap imports from outwith the EU?
 
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Even if it were true, we have seen so many ways in which pursuing the lowest price ends up being so very expensive.

With specifics, why should we be so keen on lower prices for non-EU cheese and beef? Two products that we can and do produce in signficant quantities.

Just how will (all too often brexit-voting) farmers feel if their produce is undercut by these cheap imports from outwith the EU?
His model will lead to extinction of UK manufacturing and food producing.
He (Patrick Minford) knows that and as 85%+ of our economy is service, he does not see the point of producing anything uncompetitively ourselves.
If we don't charge tariff on import of food for example from New Zealand, we have to do the same for all other countries.
 

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His model will lead to extinction of UK manufacturing and food producing.
He (Patrick Minford) knows that and as 85%+ of our economy is service, he does not see the point of producing anything uncompetitively ourselves.
If we don't charge tariff on import of food for example from New Zealand, we have to do the same for all other countries.
Jackass and co agree with this clown as his model fits very well in with their total lack of interest in the lives, welfare and rights of the plebs at the lower levels of society (to them) and everything to do with serving the purposes of the Tax Dodgers and class of swindlers they represent,for after all in any fluid situation Scum always rises to the top.

Alas in society it isn't skimmed off and discarded as worthless, but allowed to poison the mix below it.
 
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His model will lead to extinction of UK manufacturing and food producing.
He (Patrick Minford) knows that and as 85%+ of our economy is service, he does not see the point of producing anything uncompetitively ourselves.
If we don't charge tariff on import of food for example from New Zealand, we have to do the same for all other countries.
.. then there would need to be an irish border.. if the UK insists on bringing tat from around the world tarrif and inspection free and customs free into the UK, then the cairnryan ferry will be very busy bringing trucks down the road to Newry. Also what will HMG do without the revenue from import duty....
 

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Again in the Express
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‘Shoppers to enjoy Brexit price cuts as farming rethink brings cheap food’
FOOD prices will tumble after Brexit making supermarket shopping more affordable for millions, families were promised last night. Economists said consumers would immediately feel the benefit with expensive tariffs scrapped on a host of non-EU products like cheese, beef, fruit and coffee – cutting the cost of a basket of groceries


Minford of course is the Economist involved
.. but they won't have milk or cream in the coffee, mushrooms with the beef, .. incidentally how much non EU cheese would be consumed in the UK market at present?. . It seems to me mainly a uk cheddar with leavening of French brie and Danish harder cheeses, and some specials of Italy
 
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Also what will HMG do without the revenue from import duty....
Yes, this more than anything makes Minford's prediction a nonsense. For several reasons we are far more likely to increase duties to cope with a post Brexit economy.
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how much non EU cheese would be consumed in the UK market at present?. . It seems to me mainly a uk cheddar with leavening of French brie and Danish harder cheeses, and some specials of Italy
New Zealand remains a very large supplier of cheddars and butters to the UK market, the "Anchor" brand for example.
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Anchor butter is made in Wiltshire
Anchor is a New Zealand company and their cheeses used to be only made there, but it seems that as they've grown larger they also locally source some products in many parts of the world. Butter production for the UK market was moved here in 2012.
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.. then there would need to be an irish border.. if the UK insists on bringing tat from around the world tarrif and inspection free and customs free into the UK, then the cairnryan ferry will be very busy bringing trucks down the road to Newry. Also what will HMG do without the revenue from import duty....
JRM and BJ make no secret about their lack of interest in the NI peace process.
As they don't care to control the flow of goods from ROI to NI, it's the responsibility of the ROI to control the flow of goods from NI to the ROI.
They maintain all a long, 'you control if you want to, the ERG is not for controlling'.
 
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.. but they won't have milk or cream in the coffee, mushrooms with the beef, .. incidentally how much non EU cheese would be consumed in the UK market at present?. . It seems to me mainly a uk cheddar with leavening of French brie and Danish harder cheeses, and some specials of Italy
Just scanned Waitrose's cheeses - non-EU products seem very limited:
Norwegian Jarlsberg!
Philadelphia (couldn't actually see where it comes from)
Swiss Emmentaler

Even their Monterey Jack is an EU product!
 
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