Brexit, for once some facts.
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JC is popular because he is different. He reached millions of people who feel forgotten by successive centre left or centre right governments since John Major. The USA has had Bernie Sanders, France Jean-Luc Mélenchon and UK JC. Only JC made it or is making it because he has absolutely no policy that would cost voters anything. Talking about cakeism.
Among all the material that lands on my desktop, there is the odd gem and this is one - just love the end-piece re. trialling:
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Reader comment of the day in the Independent
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man the barricades1
As news broke that Marina Wheeler and Boris have separated and plan to divorce, Boris spoke confidently of his ability to negotiate a wonderful divorce deal for himself that will retain all the benefits of the marriage, but also allow him to strike out and make new deals with females around the world."
Classic!
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man the barricades1
As news broke that Marina Wheeler and Boris have separated and plan to divorce, Boris spoke confidently of his ability to negotiate a wonderful divorce deal for himself that will retain all the benefits of the marriage, but also allow him to strike out and make new deals with females around the world."
Classic!
And just look at what has happened with petroleum currency in recent decades! That has a destiny of downward decline for a long time yet, the last thing to be tied to long term.
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This website may be of some interest. It isn't the most responsive website I have used but it creates a picture of some of the parts of the UK to have benefitted from EU assistance and it gives some perspective about how much membership of the EU costs the UK out of the total expenditure of the UK:
https://www.myeu.uk/#/
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https://www.myeu.uk/#/
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Financially we got a decent deal from the EU.
People just didn't like it and voted to leave it.
I received an update from the poll to determine which piece of hist is considered the more despicable and JRM won it, if that is the correct terminology.
As I'm sure all readers of these pages are dying to know, the full result was Bojo - 25% and.......drumroll.......with 75% of the vote.......
I doubt 'grease-smug' has ever sung that verse!
Tom
As I'm sure all readers of these pages are dying to know, the full result was Bojo - 25% and.......drumroll.......with 75% of the vote.......
I doubt 'grease-smug' has ever sung that verse!
Tom
Mainly because they didn't understand it rather than disliked it, surely
The web blogger who compiles the AAV site, has produced a neat little infographic which illustrates the tory welfare policy as it is at the moment. There are 5 parts to its progress and the first 4 have all been dealt with, leaving number 5 which will remain untouched until after 'Brexit'.
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I think that the EU funds are not managed in the most transparent way, giving the impression that you have to be member of some 'magic circles' to know how to get free EU's money.
Although the amount distributed in the UK is less than 0.5% of our GDP, it's still a very large number and I bet you 99% of the population do not know how to get free EU's money.
the Pound jumped nearly 1% this afternoon on rumours that a a deal will be finalised at the end of the month or first week in November and rubber stamp by EU leaders on November 13th.
the word to Michel Barnier is 'work with the best features of Chequers plan'.
Honestly, I can't see any problem for Michel Barnier to accept Chequers. He has only to find some form of weasel words to say that the backstop in NI will never need to be called upon which is reality any way. If the UK or ROI don't want a hard border, then they just don't bother manning the border posts. The EU does not have its own border guards.
the word to Michel Barnier is 'work with the best features of Chequers plan'.
Honestly, I can't see any problem for Michel Barnier to accept Chequers. He has only to find some form of weasel words to say that the backstop in NI will never need to be called upon which is reality any way. If the UK or ROI don't want a hard border, then they just don't bother manning the border posts. The EU does not have its own border guards.
There is a documentary about it too. I watched it in the cinema.
Other than disagreeing with your choice of the words free money, i would fully agree with your assessment that uk civil servants and more particularly the "gentlemen" they sent to brussels ,were and are singulary ill equipped to engage in the excercise of formulating proposals.
I would also disagree about eu transparancy .. if you do not open the instruction manual it is hard to even know the rules .
Guardian article mentions boundary changes:
It came as Brexiters claimed on Monday that the independent constituency boundary review had “raised suspicions” because leading Eurosceptics including Johnson, David Davis, Priti Patel and Iain Duncan Smith all faced losing their seats.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/10/johnson-trying-to-stop-may-chequers-brexit-plan
If the review were anti-brexit, how come they missed north Somerset?
It came as Brexiters claimed on Monday that the independent constituency boundary review had “raised suspicions” because leading Eurosceptics including Johnson, David Davis, Priti Patel and Iain Duncan Smith all faced losing their seats.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/10/johnson-trying-to-stop-may-chequers-brexit-plan
If the review were anti-brexit, how come they missed north Somerset?
A Fairy story in the Telegraph
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Jacob Rees-Mogg: No-deal Brexit will boost UK economy by £1.1 trillion over 15 years
It's the way he tells them, is there anyone who could possibly be stupid enough not to see that this is utter fantasy?
The pillock even uses the word "will" rather than "could."
So now he Absolutely Guarantees this result .
Of course he could mean the 15 year period will start in a thousand years time.
This has been scaled down to £80 Billion in the Express
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Economists for Free Trade, a group of Eurosceptic academics who support a full break with the EU, has estimated that the Treasury could benefit from an extra £80billion in revenue over the next 15 years as a result of a no-deal departure from the EU.
The group’s report, to be unveiled tomorrow, has been backed by the European Research Group of Tory MPs chaired by Mr Rees-Mogg..
And the proposal is a that a "Single Mind" should be in control of our dealings with the EU
This is fascinating, for how are we going to find "A single mind" worthy of the name among the Tory party,capable of handling this situaion? indeed all of the Mp's of all parties in Westminster?
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Jacob Rees-Mogg: No-deal Brexit will boost UK economy by £1.1 trillion over 15 years
It's the way he tells them, is there anyone who could possibly be stupid enough not to see that this is utter fantasy?
The pillock even uses the word "will" rather than "could."
So now he Absolutely Guarantees this result .
Of course he could mean the 15 year period will start in a thousand years time.
This has been scaled down to £80 Billion in the Express
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Economists for Free Trade, a group of Eurosceptic academics who support a full break with the EU, has estimated that the Treasury could benefit from an extra £80billion in revenue over the next 15 years as a result of a no-deal departure from the EU.
The group’s report, to be unveiled tomorrow, has been backed by the European Research Group of Tory MPs chaired by Mr Rees-Mogg..
And the proposal is a that a "Single Mind" should be in control of our dealings with the EU
This is fascinating, for how are we going to find "A single mind" worthy of the name among the Tory party,capable of handling this situaion? indeed all of the Mp's of all parties in Westminster?
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He means £80 billions a year times 15, OG.
The ERG cannot agree within themselves on their own proposals, they are a bunch of privateers.