Not quite all the people..
There is only one satisfactory end to this sordid farce
Cancel Brexit
Brexit, for once some facts.
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There is only one satisfactory end to this sordid farce
Cancel Brexit
I have just read the open letter from Tom Clark to the pink tories sailing under a flag of convenience within the Labour Party.
I'm bound to say that I'm 100% in agreement with Clark as these nasty career politicians cannot seem to grasp that the people of the UK do not need any more of the same politics. That is why Corbyn is so popular among those who seek a different political agenda and why he was elected leader and has remained so, in spite of the internal backstabbing from those who pretend to be 'centrist' in their views.
an-open-letter-to-self-styled-labour.html
Tom
I'm bound to say that I'm 100% in agreement with Clark as these nasty career politicians cannot seem to grasp that the people of the UK do not need any more of the same politics. That is why Corbyn is so popular among those who seek a different political agenda and why he was elected leader and has remained so, in spite of the internal backstabbing from those who pretend to be 'centrist' in their views.
an-open-letter-to-self-styled-labour.html
Tom
This short video clip reveals the kind of people who have acted in concerted fashion against Jeremy Corbyn and real Labour supporters in conjunction with the BBC and mainstream media. The language used is the same from all the 'centrists' inside Labour.
Tom
Tom
I am sure there have been many "reports" like this from the Guardian:
Divorce news ‘won’t mar’ any Johnson leadership bid, colleagues insist
Senior Tories rally to support Boris Johnson as poll shows most voters are unaffected by personal life revelations
Key allies of Boris Johnson rallied behind the former foreign secretary on Saturday night, insisting that news of his divorce and stories about his personal life would do nothing to damage his chances of succeeding Theresa May as Conservative leader after Brexit.
Johnson has endured lurid headlines after an announcement that he and his wife of 25 years, the lawyer Marina Wheeler, are to divorce. But on Saturday, as Johnson took time out to watch the fifth test match between England and India at the Oval in London, where he was booed by the crowd, supporters said his career trajectory would be unaffected.
In my book, the phrase "Key allies" should list them. Just why should we believe that the entire electorate is going to be unmoved by this? Isn't the whole of brexit AND his personal life proof of his inability to maintain long-term relationships?
Interesting that JRM and BJ appear on the same side much of the time. Surely JRM's avowed Catholic faith should ensure damning criticism on grounds of BJ's involvement in abortion, adultery and divorce?
Divorce news ‘won’t mar’ any Johnson leadership bid, colleagues insist
Senior Tories rally to support Boris Johnson as poll shows most voters are unaffected by personal life revelations
Key allies of Boris Johnson rallied behind the former foreign secretary on Saturday night, insisting that news of his divorce and stories about his personal life would do nothing to damage his chances of succeeding Theresa May as Conservative leader after Brexit.
Johnson has endured lurid headlines after an announcement that he and his wife of 25 years, the lawyer Marina Wheeler, are to divorce. But on Saturday, as Johnson took time out to watch the fifth test match between England and India at the Oval in London, where he was booed by the crowd, supporters said his career trajectory would be unaffected.
In my book, the phrase "Key allies" should list them. Just why should we believe that the entire electorate is going to be unmoved by this? Isn't the whole of brexit AND his personal life proof of his inability to maintain long-term relationships?
Interesting that JRM and BJ appear on the same side much of the time. Surely JRM's avowed Catholic faith should ensure damning criticism on grounds of BJ's involvement in abortion, adultery and divorce?
Well done to Mehdi Hasan for drawing attention to Theresa May's support for one of her MP's, Bob Blackman, who has re-tweeted anti-Muslim material from the vile criminal, Tommy Robinson, not to mention his part in an anti-Muslim group, even hosting an anti-Muslim extremist in parliament.
Such hypocrisy!
Tom
Such hypocrisy!
Tom
Can't help seeing the suicide belt comment by BJ as also being directly anti-Muslim.
This horrid creature has more front than Blackpool:
She really is a suitable case for deselection - she has supported the anti-Corbyn crusade.
Tom
She really is a suitable case for deselection - she has supported the anti-Corbyn crusade.
Tom
what has it got to do with brexit? It's JC's turn to deselect the blairites after Blair turfed out the militants.
So why should blairites be criticised to fight back? They represent their constituencies, not JC.
It's the constituency Labour parties that I want to see act against these tories 'sailing under a flag of convenience'. Some are starting, finally, to 'grab the bull by the horns' as it were as the realisation has dawned that their MPs are no longer acting in their interests, if they ever did.
Perhaps you make the mistake of identifying some rabid right wing Labour MPs as 'centrist' when the reality is that they augment the tory vote in the lobbies on many issues?
Tom
Looks like, unusually, several senior tories agree with me. (Just in case that looks ever so self-centred, I daresay they agree with several here and elsewhere.)
The analogy brought vehement condemnation from a string of senior Conservatives, including two foreign ministers who worked under Johnson before he resigned as foreign secretary in June in protest at the Chequers plan.
Alan Duncan tweeted:
Sir Alan Duncan MP (@AlanDuncanMP)
For Boris to say that the PM’s view is like that of a suicide bomber is too much. This marks one of the most disgusting moments in modern British politics. I’m sorry, but this is the political end of Boris Johnson. If it isn’t now, I will make sure it is later. #neverfittogovern https://t.co/rdI0FWQhbi
September 8, 2018
Alistair Burt said:
Alistair Burt (@AlistairBurtUK)
I’m stunned at the nature of this attack. There is no justification for such an outrageous, inappropriate and hurtful analogy. If we don’t stop this extraordinary use of language over Brexit, our country might never heal. Again, I say, enough. https://t.co/DWVuWQgzZy
September 9, 2018
Tom Tugendhat, the Tory MP and former soldier who chairs the Commons foreign affairs committee, tweeted:
Tom Tugendhat (@TomTugendhat)
A suicide bomber murdered many in the courtyard of my office in Helmand. The carnage was disgusting, limbs and flesh hanging from trees and bushes. Brave men who stopped him killing me and others died In horrific pain. Some need to grow up. Comparing the PM to that isn’t funny. https://t.co/IeRWhmhgS9
September 8, 2018
Another senior backbencher, Sarah Wollaston, said she would most likely leave the party if Johnson took over. “Personally I hope that won’t happen. I don’t think he is fit to lead the country,” she told BBC Radio 4’s The World This Weekend.
Those Labour MPs were elected before JC was elected leader, if anyone is sailing under a flag of convenience, it is Momentum, a party within a party. I do not ague against JC being voted as leader of the Labour party. His duty is to win the next general election. By chasing out MPs with large majority, he is putting Labour's chances at risk.
Where do you get these ideas of yours? Corbyn hasn't chased anybody out but if local constituencies decide that their duly elected MP is failing to support Labour Party policies, or worse, voting along with the tories, then they should deselect them and put up a candidate in tune with Labour policy and indeed with the desires and aims of the constituents.
There can be no centrist ground between tory dogma and socialist policies under Labour - the coalition of 2010 - 2015 could have produced consensus politics but was a completely wasteful 5 years, 5 years of missed opportunity through the implementation of the whole tory wish-list, the laughable demo-rats revealed for the weasels that they have always been. A vote for them is a vote wasted and always has been.
The only possibility of a different kind of politics is to elect a Labour government under its current leader.
Tom
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Looks like the EU project has created another far right enclave that wasn’t there before.
Now Sweden wants to get out.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sweden-starting-talk-leaving-eu-142558459.html?guccounter=1
Can’t blame them really. Who wants a return of the nazis?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1014867/Sweden-elections-Brexit-deadlock-SWEXIT-EU
Now Sweden wants to get out.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sweden-starting-talk-leaving-eu-142558459.html?guccounter=1
Can’t blame them really. Who wants a return of the nazis?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1014867/Sweden-elections-Brexit-deadlock-SWEXIT-EU
I don't follow Labour party's internal politics so I don't know what I am talking about here, but on the face of it, JC brought in nearly half a million new members, 3 times more than the previous tally of Labour membership and activists. With such a new influx, the make up of Labour local membership is very much different to that before JC took charge. It seems clear that some members like Chuka is going to be chased out.
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Chuka was pretty much nailed on as the next leader on a processional vote but he turned it down for some reason. I think it’s a bit unfair him sniping from the sidelines now.
I don't see this as bad news for the EU, they'd be well rid of the UK and Sweden. They are the two countries who have ended up the strongest opposition to the euro and often been the awkward brigade. Had they joined in with it the euro would have been made an even stronger currency against the US dollar than it already is, possibly being its equal in the world.
The strength of the EU is best served by unity, so somewhat smaller but more unified is the most sensible path to eventual union.
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Not a chance mate. The dollar is tied up in petroleum currency. You could bring in the Yuan with the Euro and it still wouldn’t come close.
I hope the EU doesn’t collapse. Not in the short term anyway, but I do think the smaller nations might start getting uppity when the Germans refuse to bail them out again.
And as for the Irish.... I’m more than disappointed with their attitude. Especially after we bailed them out last time. But it is what it’s is.
We just need to be strong and stable......
Fat chance of that though with the zombie in number ten.
This is the Toories real plan
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/09/nhs-land-earmarked-for-sale-to-developers
It was ever thus.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/09/nhs-land-earmarked-for-sale-to-developers
It was ever thus.