that’s what you think you do, but it’s not what I or others read.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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That is a complete lie.You are adding delusional to your many qualities.
They will dismiss it, as it’s of no consequence, it’s for the newspapers not for the government.
It’s looking more likely that the can is going to get some kicking.
What it shows is that attitudes over there are hardening.
Fortunately they seem to be joking about it, but we need to be less "Smart Ass" with them or that could change, and lecturing them on their history is presumptuous
Accusing others of what you do yourself again.
Do you have a problem with posting without launching a personal attack? do try to stay on topic.
You take things far too seriously, hanging of everything that is said means you’re not seeing the wood for The trees, the properganda in the media is just to sell media, it’s not real, nor is it where discussions take place.
Delusional and hypocritical, keep going OG, your list of qualities gets longer every post.
I don't really want to comment on internal UK politics, but the idea of turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind. Why any group of people would deliberately exclude themselves from the right to have a final say goes against all principles of self determination. Bluntly it is blizzare.
I can’t really blame him when met with someone who doesn’t suffer fools gladly, a fool meaning anyone who challenges, or has a different view, but I agree that in doing so, it just perpetuates it.
Well that must have been answered many many times, but I guess it’s because they don’t like what the EU is becoming, to be fair no one thinks that the EU doesn’t need big reform, no one other than the EU, CAP, the industrial strategy, training and youth employment, the ability of companies to offshore profit to tax havens, lobbyists, immigration both in and outside the EU, corruption,
That’s not to say that even those that voted leave don’t think that there have been some big benefits, but it doesn’t seem capable of change, it moving city every other month, it’s constrained by nationalism, in the constituent countries, the French doing what’s best for the French, the Germans doing what’s best for Germany, that sort of thing, the nationalists that are in the corridors of the EU
On the one hand it needs to change to a federal state of Europe, in order to override the nationalism, which it’s slowly been doing, since it evolved into the EU, but on the other hand nationalism means that many don’t want that to happen, those nationalists not in the corridors of the EU, that governments like to ignore,
To be fair Ireland got to vote on each stage, was it twice? So you had the ability to buy into the changes, the UK didn’t, and that was a mistake by Blair and Brown, that would have been a referendum that could have worked regardless of the result.
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that's tribalism.
They'd rather shoot themselves in the foot than accepting a compromise.
it's simply impossible to satisfy all member countries with the 'level playing field' approach.
Take the fishing policy for example: if the EU and UK government allow British fishers to sell their quotas abroad then it comes as no surprise that some will do just that, and others will see it as 'they come and steal our fish'.
And yet, level playing field is what the EU is for.
It’s not a level playing field though, and it never will be,
And the fisheries issue is a little more complex than you’re suggesting,
it's only an example of why the EU is very exposed to criticism and probably can't reform itself much nor quickly.
The main problem with the EU, compared to the EEA, is their publicity funds.
The EEA does not spend much money to promote itself, the EU does and thus exposes itself to the accusation of corruption.
I don’t see the link between self publicising and corruption,
Corruption is everywhere, just because you don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean it’s not rife, it’s just better hidden, hidden by those corrupt, and hidden by the authorities, because it makes them look bad,
Corruption is part of the greed of man, the EU are no more corrupt than any other organisation, but there again it’s no less corrupt either.
you can probably assume these two things:
1. degree of corruption is higher with hierachy. EU delegates spending, corruption is multiplied by local factors.
2. degree of corruption grows with the size of the budget. EFTA's budget is about £2bln, mostly paid to the EU. 1% of the EU budget.
Your abrasive attitude was evident from your very first post, and you are still off topic and launching a personal attack.
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