In the street vernacular, the latter would still be pigs flying over the conservative's houses.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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I,m glad somebody got it...In the street vernacular, the latter would still be pigs flying over the conservative's houses.
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The idiots went ahead this in the Daily Mail
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Trump launches airstrikes on Damascus in response to 'evil and despicable' chemical attack by 'monster' Assad and directly challenges Putin: 'What kind of a nation wants to be associated with the mass murder of innocent men, women and children?'
Is that a question Donald?
How about the USA and UK?
The reader's comments are almost entirely critical!
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Trump launches airstrikes on Damascus in response to 'evil and despicable' chemical attack by 'monster' Assad and directly challenges Putin: 'What kind of a nation wants to be associated with the mass murder of innocent men, women and children?'
Is that a question Donald?
How about the USA and UK?
The reader's comments are almost entirely critical!
From the Independent the liar May is at it again
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British Prime Minister Theresa May said there was “no practicable alternative to the use of force” to stop the use of alleged use of chemical weapons by Bashar al-Assad, as the UK joined the US and France in launching strikes against targets in Syria associated with the use of such substances.
As explosions were being from several locations in Syria, Ms May said she had sought to use every diplomatic channel to avoid the use of force
Marvellous why was there no practicable alternative? the investigation was about to start.
Sought every diplomatic channel?
She never even consulted parliament!
Once again completely at odds with the Reader's comments
And here's a thought to ponder
What happens to the Chemical weapons allegedly stored in places we have just bombed? by what magical stroke do we expect to incinerate them completely preventing any escaping into the atmosphere?
As a means of protecting the public from them this as the Americans would say SUCKS!
If there is any truth in the story that Chemical weapons are indeed stored there, you can imagine the glee of the rebels that we have caused a Chemical weapons attack on the innocent citizens of Damascus.
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British Prime Minister Theresa May said there was “no practicable alternative to the use of force” to stop the use of alleged use of chemical weapons by Bashar al-Assad, as the UK joined the US and France in launching strikes against targets in Syria associated with the use of such substances.
As explosions were being from several locations in Syria, Ms May said she had sought to use every diplomatic channel to avoid the use of force
Marvellous why was there no practicable alternative? the investigation was about to start.
Sought every diplomatic channel?
She never even consulted parliament!
Once again completely at odds with the Reader's comments
And here's a thought to ponder
What happens to the Chemical weapons allegedly stored in places we have just bombed? by what magical stroke do we expect to incinerate them completely preventing any escaping into the atmosphere?
As a means of protecting the public from them this as the Americans would say SUCKS!
If there is any truth in the story that Chemical weapons are indeed stored there, you can imagine the glee of the rebels that we have caused a Chemical weapons attack on the innocent citizens of Damascus.
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Yet again she doesn't listen. I truly believe that she is deluded to the point of a serious mental illness. She is behaving like a child craving adoration.
If any good can come out of her latest episode of craziness, I hope it's something which causes her serious personal harm to the extent of incapacitation. To borrow the words of the hideously deformed cow, "there is no practical alternative."
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From Twitter
A caution from recent history
To quote Davis
"That was then
This is now
Ha ha ha!"
A caution from recent history
To quote Davis
"That was then
This is now
Ha ha ha!"
Another tweet
True or false? who knows
"#BREAKING ALL OF THE BRITISH MISSILES LOCKED AND SHOT DOWN British missiles that targeted an ammo depot east of #Homs were jammed by Russian Electronic WS and shot down"
"Britain is the only nation other than the United States currently in possession of Tomahawks and last purchased 65 in 2014 for around £98 million.
Total number of Tomahawk missiles launched at #Syria . - 112 - Mostly wasted
If this is trueHow many millions were wasted on this none productive sortie?
All we seem to have done is provided the Russians with some target practice that will be used to improve their defence system.
And what did we get? two things
"a statement from the UK Ministry of Defense said. "They launched Storm Shadow missiles at a military facility -- a former missile base -- some 15 miles west of Homs, where the regime is assessed to keep chemical weapon precursors stockpiled in breach of Syria's obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention."
These are in fact a European Cruise missile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow
If the enemy can down them, it was an even more expensive night for us as they seem to be nearer to double the cost of a Tomahawk.
True or false? who knows
"#BREAKING ALL OF THE BRITISH MISSILES LOCKED AND SHOT DOWN British missiles that targeted an ammo depot east of #Homs were jammed by Russian Electronic WS and shot down"
"Britain is the only nation other than the United States currently in possession of Tomahawks and last purchased 65 in 2014 for around £98 million.
Total number of Tomahawk missiles launched at #Syria . - 112 - Mostly wasted
If this is trueHow many millions were wasted on this none productive sortie?
All we seem to have done is provided the Russians with some target practice that will be used to improve their defence system.
And what did we get? two things
- Wasted a lot of Taxpayers money in a futile gesture
- hopefully realised that Cruise missiles are now obsolete
"a statement from the UK Ministry of Defense said. "They launched Storm Shadow missiles at a military facility -- a former missile base -- some 15 miles west of Homs, where the regime is assessed to keep chemical weapon precursors stockpiled in breach of Syria's obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention."
These are in fact a European Cruise missile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow
If the enemy can down them, it was an even more expensive night for us as they seem to be nearer to double the cost of a Tomahawk.
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You Gov Poll result
And if reports of our missiles being shot down are true,
the proverbial will really hit the fan!
Cruise missiles were such a convenient way to slaughter the innocent at minimum personal risk to the attacker, without them we can expect unacceptable and very expensive losses in terms of personnel and aircraft shot down in our illegal wars of agression.
And it means that Drones are not so good either!
War becomes less antiseptic and impersonal and we will incur Human losses.
The public will like that even less!
From what information is coming in the raid was not a complete success, with luck the Russians will ignore it.
Significantly there hasn't been claims of widespread targets being taking out by "our" side.
And if reports of our missiles being shot down are true,
the proverbial will really hit the fan!
Cruise missiles were such a convenient way to slaughter the innocent at minimum personal risk to the attacker, without them we can expect unacceptable and very expensive losses in terms of personnel and aircraft shot down in our illegal wars of agression.
And it means that Drones are not so good either!
War becomes less antiseptic and impersonal and we will incur Human losses.
The public will like that even less!
From what information is coming in the raid was not a complete success, with luck the Russians will ignore it.
Significantly there hasn't been claims of widespread targets being taking out by "our" side.
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it's better that they are wasted than if they hit some real chemical stores or civilians.
The money was already half wasted anyway.
It's a toss up whether trump has aged better than his tweets.
he tweets his own word but his last speech was probably written by someone else.
The logic is so cockeyed that the British would travel such distances to do that , .... Why so that they could then spend more money in firing missiles??? .
In these cases, the simple explanation is invariably the correct one. Occam's razor and all that.
Technology gives an edge, but there are always countermeasures, and cruise missiles are no longer novel.You Gov Poll result
And if reports of our missiles being shot down are true,
the proverbial will really hit the fan!
Cruise missiles were such a convenient way to slaughter the innocent at minimum personal risk to the attacker, without them we can expect unacceptable and very expensive losses in terms of personnel and aircraft shot down in our illegal wars of agression.
And it means that Drones are not so good either!
War becomes less antiseptic and impersonal and we will incur Human losses.
The public will like that even less!
From what information is coming in the raid was not a complete success, with luck the Russians will ignore it.
Significantly there hasn't been claims of widespread targets being taking out by "our" side.
The Russians think that the British embed their agents within NGOs and the white helmets. I think there is enough support for their accusations. If they did do the Salisbury's job then why not pin something on them (or their associates) for a change?
Their support on TV comes from a guy who was indeed in the room at Douma General Hospital when the whole thing was filmed.
Mrs TM was also very careful with her words. She did not say 'banned chemical weapons', just 'chemical weapons'. The latter could mean anything from table salt to lemon juice.
Why would we want to
A) Embed agents with " white helmets"?
B) If we did why get them to fabricate chemical attacks ?
we support the Saudis against 'Iranian expansionists'.
If you wonder why we do that, we sell an awful lot of weapons to the Saudis.
As the Iran supported factions are winning the war in Syria, we try to help the rebels and give the Russians a kick or two at the same time.
And the evidence for this supposition ?
I think more likely
"The way the Russian propaganda machine has targeted the White Helmets is a neat case study in the prevailing information wars. It exposes just how rumours, conspiracy theories and half-truths bubble to the top of YouTube, Google and Twitter search algorithms.
“This is the heart of Russian propaganda. In the old days they would try and portray the Soviet Union as a model society. Now it’s about confusing every issue with so many narratives that people can’t recognise the truth when they see it
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David Patrikarakos, author of War in 140 Characters: How Social Media is Reshaping Conflict in the 21st Century.
We are being manipulated. Its utter rubbish we have agents within " White Helmets".
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zlatan, how many people got killed and maimed by the Syrian civil war? and how many got killed and maimed by chemical weapons? and what chemical weapons are they?
Most incidents involving chemical weapons are by chlorine. Under the convention that the Syrian government signed up to, they did not have to destroy chlorine stocks because chlorine is not a banned chemical weapon. When Sarin was used, not enough quantity was used or left trace for UN people to pin that to Mr Assad, so it could be from any of the factions fighting over there. Assad has no special reason to use anything more than choking agents to force his enemies out into fresh air where they can be shot at by his helicopters, chlorine does just that.
Most incidents involving chemical weapons are by chlorine. Under the convention that the Syrian government signed up to, they did not have to destroy chlorine stocks because chlorine is not a banned chemical weapon. When Sarin was used, not enough quantity was used or left trace for UN people to pin that to Mr Assad, so it could be from any of the factions fighting over there. Assad has no special reason to use anything more than choking agents to force his enemies out into fresh air where they can be shot at by his helicopters, chlorine does just that.