the keyword is 'developed'.
They don't want to get involved in a fight between TM and Mr Putin.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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They don't want to get involved in a fight between TM and Mr Putin.
Hang on minute there.....we are ........Anglo Saxons.......(sort of Jairmuns) and a little of everything else on the side too of course.....
If the meeting was with TM it's more likely that they would say anything just to get rid of her.
As scientists they wouldn't want to go beyond the ascertainable truth, and certainly wouldn't want any political involvement.
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Usages like "of a type" and "Developed" are both so broad they may have well said it was not identifiable positively nor could they identify the source with certainty, (But TM would probably have sacked them on the spot if they had. No pressure of course)
I'm fascinated by the nature of the other evidence...
TM hasn't actually claimed any exists, she said this
"There was “no plausible alternative explanation” other than Russia being responsible for the nerve agent attack.
OK TM How does that equate with Proof? as a Scot I would say the verdict on this is
"Not Proven"
It could be many other Nations and organisations were involved.
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..........to which, General De Gaulle said, 'Oh, you think so! I think non and thrice non - so long as there is breath in my body, France will remain independent of the UK. The French people would never forgive me, were I and my government to cede any part of la belle France, geographic, cultural or political to la Grand Bretagne. Vive la différence!'
'We will come to an agreement with our neighbours, Belgium, Italy, Holland, Luxembourg and West Germany and create our own union, a common market, no less! In years to come, you British will be on your knees begging to join us!'
.........more or less, though perhaps not in those exact words.
Tom
And maybe this is a good time to remember what the great Tony Benn had to say about any possible destruction of democracy:
Tom
Dispensing with inconvenient facts such as when Churchill made those remarks De Gaulle never heard them, was an unknown officer and had no Government position, I'm sure that later these were indeed his sentiments...........to which, General De Gaulle said, 'Oh, you think so! I think non and thrice non - so long as there is breath in my body, France will remain independent of the UK. The French people would never forgive me, were I and my government to cede any part of la belle France, geographic, cultural or political to la Grand Bretagne. Vive la différence!'
'We will come to an agreement with our neighbours, Belgium, Italy, Holland, Luxembourg and West Germany and create our own union, a common market, no less! In years to come, you British will be on your knees begging to join us!'
.........more or less, though perhaps not in those exact words.
Tom
For the Blighter refused our applications to join the EEC was it twice or three times.
You can bet that there won't be a major headline announcing that Porton Down can't identify the source of the Nerve Agent in the near future!
The Sun has more comedy to offer!
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CEREAL MYSTERY
Police investigating claims Russian spy Sergei Skripal’s £1 bag of porridge was poisoned by daughter Yulia’s ‘female pal’
Fears have emerged that spy Sergei Skripal's breakfast may have been poisoned by a Russian pal of his daughter
He had asked daughter Yulia, 33, to bring the Russian-style breakfast from Moscow.
Sergei, 66, also demanded bay leaves and spices from his motherland.
But in the rush to fly to London — the day before the March 4 nerve-agent attack — she forgot to pick up the grocery gifts.
So instead, Yulia asked an unnamed woman, who flew to London separately, to buy and bring the buckwheat, his favourite breakfast meal.
Which you can get off Amazon
Note : ....and nothing dodgy .
Police are now seeking a Cereal Killer!
And as icing on the cake this
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PET MYSTERY
Sergei Skripal’s family demand to know why ex-spy’s beloved pet cats and guinea pigs ‘didn’t die from nerve agent’
The family's demands come after experts have said they "don't know the precise source" of the deadly nerve agent used to poison Sergei Skripal and his daughter
That's easily solved, they didn't eat Cereal and couldn't reach the door knob.
This must rate as one of the most unlikely con jobs worked by a Government on the Public ever, anywhere.
We are going to end up looking complete fools over this.
Are we actually going to accuse Putin of poisoning Breakfast Cereal now?
The poor man could suffer a Rupture from laughing!
I recall a comedian protesting that an unknown assassin had attempted to murder him,
By Concealing the white lettering on a Bin liner that read
"Do not put this bag over your head"
With a Black Felt tip pen.
Pretty much as credible as the Garbage we are being offered!
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CEREAL MYSTERY
Police investigating claims Russian spy Sergei Skripal’s £1 bag of porridge was poisoned by daughter Yulia’s ‘female pal’
Fears have emerged that spy Sergei Skripal's breakfast may have been poisoned by a Russian pal of his daughter
He had asked daughter Yulia, 33, to bring the Russian-style breakfast from Moscow.
Sergei, 66, also demanded bay leaves and spices from his motherland.
But in the rush to fly to London — the day before the March 4 nerve-agent attack — she forgot to pick up the grocery gifts.
So instead, Yulia asked an unnamed woman, who flew to London separately, to buy and bring the buckwheat, his favourite breakfast meal.
Which you can get off Amazon
Note : ....and nothing dodgy .
Police are now seeking a Cereal Killer!
And as icing on the cake this
"
PET MYSTERY
Sergei Skripal’s family demand to know why ex-spy’s beloved pet cats and guinea pigs ‘didn’t die from nerve agent’
The family's demands come after experts have said they "don't know the precise source" of the deadly nerve agent used to poison Sergei Skripal and his daughter
That's easily solved, they didn't eat Cereal and couldn't reach the door knob.
This must rate as one of the most unlikely con jobs worked by a Government on the Public ever, anywhere.
We are going to end up looking complete fools over this.
Are we actually going to accuse Putin of poisoning Breakfast Cereal now?
The poor man could suffer a Rupture from laughing!
I recall a comedian protesting that an unknown assassin had attempted to murder him,
By Concealing the white lettering on a Bin liner that read
"Do not put this bag over your head"
With a Black Felt tip pen.
Pretty much as credible as the Garbage we are being offered!
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You can't let facts get in the way of a good story........it's government policy for gawd's sake!Dispensing with inconvenient facts such as when Churchill made those remarks De Gaulle never heard them, was an unknown officer and had no Government position, I'm sure that later these were indeed his sentiments.
For the Blighter refused our applications to join the EEC was it twice or three times.
Tom
Since the Russian couple allegedly had Buckwheat porridge is there any possibility that they suffered Ergot poisoning?
Riddle time. According to my DNA, I am mostly Irish, a bit Scots, a bit English and a few little bits from France and the middle east. Just how Anglo-Saxon am I?Hang on minute there.....we are ........Anglo Saxons.......(sort of Jairmuns) and a little of everything else on the side too of course.....
Using the latest Porton Down approved analysis method we get this
Anglo Saxon of a type Developed by the UK
using ingredients from unknown sources in unknown quantities.
Which means there is no possible alternative to your being Anglo Saxon 100%
I hope you find that reassuring
I was listening to the wireless on my way into work this evening and there was an interesting announcement regarding President Macron's assault on French labour laws, benefits, terms and conditions. Amongst other things on his hit list is the end to the 35 hour week, severe restrictions on collective bargaining, introducing mechanisms to make it easier to hire and fire staff. Some view this as preparation for privatisation of sections of the railway network.
Naming no names, but if the a similar level of reform were to be proposed in the UK, it would be spun as an evil Tory plot brought about by, and the ultimate aim of Brexit. I mention it because it is interesting to note that similar issues and courses of action are taken by governments against workers both in or out of the EU and by governments proposing to leave the EU. It indicates that EU membership has no bearing on the conditions or treatment that workers experience.
Naming no names, but if the a similar level of reform were to be proposed in the UK, it would be spun as an evil Tory plot brought about by, and the ultimate aim of Brexit. I mention it because it is interesting to note that similar issues and courses of action are taken by governments against workers both in or out of the EU and by governments proposing to leave the EU. It indicates that EU membership has no bearing on the conditions or treatment that workers experience.
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No tillson it doesn't, it simply indicates the action taken by one politician, and nothing more than that.
Well, a bit more actually. It indicates that this sort of assault can still potentially happen regardless of whether you are in or out of the EU. I mention this because you have been one of the most vocal in stating that precisely what is being proposed by Macron, attacks on worker's rights and the sale of assets, will happen in the UK after we have left. The reality is, it's been happening whilst we were members of the EU, it will happen after we leave and it will happen in France. The EU membership, therefore, makes not a blind bit of difference.
Indeed, these are national matters, except where a treatment breaches the Human Rights Convention or the Geneva Convention, both in all EU members laws and requirements of EU membership.
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I agree, which rather undermines the arguments made by some on here that Brexit is a Tory plot which has been calculated to screw workers. As you say, they don't need to leave the EU to do that.