Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

From the Telegraph
"
RAF 'needs more money and people' to combat Russia, air force chief warns on 100th anniversary

He's not wrong!

Size‎: ‎148,000 personnel (2018) + 3,200 aircraft;
Headquarters‎: ‎Moscow‎, Russian Federation
Current commander‎: ‎Colonel General Sergey ..

RAF
Size‎: ‎33,240 active personnel; 906 operational ...
Chief of the Air Staff‎: ‎Air Chief Marshal Sir Step...
Air Staff Offices‎: ‎Whitehall‎, London
Fighter‎: ‎Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4; Lockheed ...F15

"Never in the Field of Human Conflict has so MUCH been expected by so MANY
From so FEW"

Perhaps it would be a better idea NOT to pick a fight with them?

 

[Woosh]

Nigel Farage:l

"Once we are out, we are going to wake up on March 30 next year saying ‘do you know what? We are a free country again.
We can do whatever we like. So we could, even, change the terms of that deal.
There are plenty of deals in life that get broken and that’s just the way life is.”

I wonder who is gullible enough to believe this.
That reminds me of this week BBC Click, 'Who has your data?' - and what companies like Analytica do with it. One interviewee said 'to identify gullible people, that you can sell anything to'. Oh dear...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09x5k4y/click-who-has-your-data

 

[Zlatan]

From the Telegraph
"
RAF 'needs more money and people' to combat Russia, air force chief warns on 100th anniversary

He's not wrong!

Size‎: ‎148,000 personnel (2018) + 3,200 aircraft;
Headquarters‎: ‎Moscow‎, Russian Federation
Current commander‎: ‎Colonel General Sergey ..

RAF
Size‎: ‎33,240 active personnel; 906 operational ...
Chief of the Air Staff‎: ‎Air Chief Marshal Sir Step...
Air Staff Offices‎: ‎Whitehall‎, London
Fighter‎: ‎Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4; Lockheed ...F15

"Never in the Field of Human Conflict has so MUCH been expected by so MANY
From so FEW"

Perhaps it would be a better idea NOT to pick a fight with them?

Good job we,ve got use of Trident at weekends then...

 

[oldgroaner]

Good job we,ve got use of Trident at weekends then...

Don't forget that the last time we let one off it headed in the general direction of America.
But at least that will have made Putin laugh......

If we are to believe half of what the Government say about him, he probably made that happen!

 

[oldgroaner]

Is there a word Leavermoan?

Perhaps not but I bet there will be..

Of course there is it's....
Zlatan!

 

[oldtom]

It seems I'm not the only one who has identified these creatures and now recognise them as the scourge of social media......

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155817184421939

Tom

 

[Zlatan]

It seems I'm not the only one who has identified these creatures and now recognise them as the scourge of social media......

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155817184421939

Tom

That's actually a very good link. Well done Tom. Beats Frankie Boyle and Irvine Welsh by a good margin.
I especially liked the page about insults. Now who is it that bands insults about continually?? Mrs May ? The Royal Family ? Tories ? Glass houses and stones ???
And BTW by criteria in link everyone of us is a troll. We are all guilty of one or more of listed indiscretions at times. Some rather more than others.

 

[oldgroaner]

More on the Cambridge Analytica scam
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/why-the-cambridge-analytica-scandal-could-be-much-more-serious-than-you-think/27/03/

More Fake news? Maybe....
But what if it isn't?

 

[oldgroaner]

That's actually a very good link. Well done Tom. Beats Frankie Boyle and Irvine Welsh by a good margin.
I especially liked the page about insults. Now who is it that bands insults about continually?? Mrs May ? The Royal Family ? Tories ? Glass houses and stones ???

Of course you never so any of that, you talk in Glowing terms about EU Politicians, and anyone else you chance upon, and I' m Mad and Ogski of course.

And you twist the words I use and try to put others into "my mouth" How many times have asked you to actually read the actual words I posted, not inserted your own take instead?

Sorry but it does come very close to depicting what you do.
Still it is amusing, that you think it will actually work.
This bit is true, as action results in reaction
"And BTW by criteria in link everyone of us is a troll. We are all guilty of one or more of listed indiscretions at times. Some rather more than others."
Try this
"Do as you would be done by" and you won't be the Worst offender on here.

 

[Zlatan]

Of course you never do any of that, you talk in glowing terms about EU politicians, and anyone else you chance upon, and I' m mad and Ogski of course.
"Do as you would be done by"

And ofcourse you are guilt free on that score..The stupid comments...???? Your infamous analogies ??
Kettle and Pot OG...
But yes you are right , you do seem very angry.
Dont actually view Ogski as an insult, could be praise.

 

[oldgroaner]

And ofcourse you are guilt free on that score..The stupid comments...???? Your infamous analogies ??
Kettle and Pot OG...

You should have waited till I finished revising the last post, where
I admitted my own indiscretions.

A good Sentry says
"Halt" Who goes there?"

Your version is
"BANG! who went there?"

ps thanks for the compliment I never realised my analogies were Infamous
so encouraged by that I included one in this post

 

[Woosh]

More on the Cambridge Analytica scam
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/why-the-cambridge-analytica-scandal-could-be-much-more-serious-than-you-think/27/03/

More Fake news? Maybe....
But what if it isn't?

it does seem plausible explanation why Wylie said in front of MPs that his legal concerns were pushed aside.
What a can of worms.

 

[Zlatan]

You should have waited till I finished revising the last post, where
I admitted my own indiscretions.

A good Sentry says
"Halt" Who goes there?"

Your version is
"BANG! who went there?"

ps thanks for the compliment I never realised my analogies were Infamous
so encouraged by that I included one in this post

Fair comments.
I do think you,ll find if you search back I,ve suggested on quite a few occasions you and I have an armistice if not a total cessation of hostilities . We both decide other breaks terms and start shooting.
Perhaps we all should be rather more careful .
You do seem rather more tolerant of others indiscretions but search mine out ??
( But understandable)

 

[oldgroaner]

it does seem plausible explanation why Wylie said in front of MPs that his legal concerns were pushed aside.
What a can of worms.

Shades of
"How complex is the web we weave
When First we practice to deceive"

But my goodness there seem to be a lot of "Spiders" in this particular web!

 

[oldgroaner]

Fair comments.

Keep up the "good" work, it wouldn't be the same on here without you.
Regards OG

 

[Zlatan]

Keep up the "good" work, it wouldn't be the same on here without you.
Regards OG

Or you.
Take care. Off for breakfast with grandkids.
( To be fair Tom's link made me chuckle , thought it summed me and you up very well..not trolls though, go on facebook/ twitter and read some of the bile..really nasty. I dont think we are)

 

[Woosh]

Shades of
"How complex is the web we weave
When First we practice to deceive"

But my goodness there seem to be a lot of "Spiders" in this particular web!

SCL is specialist in psychology warfare.
That's the new weapon of mass destruction.
Would it be banned in the future? who knows?

 

[oldgroaner]

Fair comments.
I do think you,ll find if you search back I,ve suggested on quite a few occasions you and I have an armistice if not a total cessation of hostilities . We both decide other breaks terms and start shooting.
Perhaps we all should be rather more careful .
You do seem rather more tolerant of others indiscretions but search mine out ??
( But understandable)

I enjoy the sparring you fool!
Seriously I don't take your comments to heart , nor should you in return, as I have said often enough I have no animosity to you at all, quite the opposite.

I would point out that in Yorkshire a sign that two chaps are friends is that they roundly insult each other whenever they meet

It's a cultural thing .

 

[oldgroaner]

SCL is specialist in psychology warfare.
That's the new weapon of mass destruction.
Would it be banned in the future? who knows?

I have maintained right from the start of this thread that sinister plots and methods of persuasion , not merely the background of long term lies we have faced from the Government, which paradoxically "Blew up spectacularly in their Faces" and the lies they told about the EU worked against them, but novel new ones using Mass persuasion , backed by huge and illegal amounts of money,
And by all accounts some of it of Russian origin!!! have been employed and may, or may not have been sufficiently influential to sway the Referendum into a Marginal vote leave decision.

For these reasons
I declare ( Since Nobody else with and you have to start somewhere) the Referendum to be null and void as having been sabotaged in the following ways

1. An attempt that May or may not have been successful was employed to rig the result
2. Illegal funds of questionable origin funded this process
3. The illegal use of people's personal data was employed to sway their votes

If this sort of thing happened in Sport there would be a "Russian Doping" style scandal and action taken to nullify the Result.

 

[oldgroaner]

I wonder how long the honeymoon will last? from the Sun
Theresa May can see clearly now the pain’s gone since the General Election — and must focus on Brexit deal
Theresa May is now in her strongest position since the General Election, and Jeremy Corbyn his weakest, says James Forsyth

Scanning the Reader reactions in the Various right wing papers doesn't actually support this point of view,and each new titbit on the poisoning case weakens May's positions bit by bit.
"Falklands Mark 2" is running out of steam.

Lets have a little Sitrep on this sordid affair, shall we?

1. Corbyn was never STRONG to be weakened,and doesn't give a toss anyway,and he wasn't going to do anything useful, after all, was he?
   
2. On the credit side she has pushed Jackass Grease Smug and the Flying Flea Circus out of the limelight
3. She has in fact achieved the remarkable feat of winning the musical chairs for the last deckchair on the Sinking Titanic (Brexit)
4. In terms of the Disaster the country is heading into there has been no change.

Nothing to see here: Move along.....