Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

The matter of the unpublished reports on post-'Brexit' scenarios across a variety of areas may become the straw that breaks the camel's back.

The tory government is now really tottering on the edge following recent events but it seems they may well be in contempt of parliament by disallowing the publication of the post-'Brexit' reports. I haven't yet read the mainstream media today but 'Vox Political' carries this:

crisis-point-mays-government-risks-being-in-contempt-of-parliament-over-refusal-to-release-brexit-papers

Tom

 

[wheeler]

No, the morning BBC news!

So they've done it again!

wheeler

 

[PeterL]

 

[MikelBikel]

You never attributed ownership so one assumed it was your opinion. At £500+ per hour no wonder they see problems. If not, they will make them up.

Put all lawyers on minimum wage and all the problems will disappear!

 

[MikelBikel]

predictions about when driverless cars arrive have the habit of being put back.
..The work is usually underestimated because in AI research, we don't yet know quite what the problems are until we are nearer to the target.

Now that sounds more like something about the Brexit negoti-machinations. Let's put a robot on the job, has AI been tried?

 

[MikelBikel]

quote from robotic..
Robotics will come to its own when research in AI reaches a human level of general intelligence, that it enables the robots to create goals and make their own decisions.

While Saudi, of all places, recently granted a "female", Hong Kong made robot, "citizenship", the robot took the opportunity to slight Tesla's Elon Musk

 

[flecc]

Put all lawyers on minimum wage and all the problems will disappear!

It's actually not the lawyers finding the problems, it's governments in many countries. Those problems then passed to the lawyers whose difficulty now is in finding solutions acceptable both within current laws and to the governments. Anyone who thinks that's easy simply has no understanding of the scale of the problems.

And as said, not in any way uniquely a UK problem.
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[MikelBikel]

From the jolly old Beeb
"Nuclear submarine HMS Astute runs aground off Skye
"Earlier in the day they did have ropes and they were trying tow"
Prob dont have ropes or cleats nowadays, its all Thunderbird s
The submarine has run aground outwith the safe sea lane marked on Admiralty charts.
Martin Douglas, a former nuclear submarine engineer, said a concern for the crew was the provision of sea water to the boat's reactor.
He said: "The sea provides the primary cooling for the reactor system.
"Form a Bucket Chain lads......

These submarines are so stealthy even the crew don't know where they are apparently"
Didn't they take off the conning tower and periscope that enabled them to 'see' where they're going, for stealth reasons.

I like this bit
"The 39,000 acoustic panels which cover its surface mask"

Better off with Solar Panels if they're gonna spend a lot of time beached.

And also is this a world first for a Navy being unable to sink one of it's own submarines?
Judging by the amount of crew sacked for inappropriate associations with female members of crew and taking drugs while waiting to load newcleer fireworks, maybe they're too busy to look where they're going?

Didn't the AI sonar/radar/bathy-whatsit not autopilot them out of shallows?

 

[oldtom]

The tory in-fighting has intensified after May's appointment of Williamson - here are some early comments.....and not from socialists!



I can't stop laughing at this because it's about the very people making a complete arris of 'Brexit', still trying to hoodwink the public into believing that there's a crock of gold at the end of this rainbow the two-year A50 process. They can't even organise their own team let alone the biggest peacetime change ever contemplated by a British government.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

I think the tories are beginning to crack under the pressure of criticism and condemnation they have been steadily accumulating over recent weeks........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41849030

Tom

 

[Steb]

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genuinely like heath Robinson as much as anyone else, but isn't it odd - brexitters either parody remainers' arguments, or say more persuasive arguments should be made to change their minds (Woosh) - without providing substantial arguments for it. There's something quite regressed going on for electorate I think, maybe it's too many years of being mollycoddled and not having to think for themselves. I honestly don't think anything short of a proper recession (or world war) can fix that.

 

[Woosh]

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it's so funny!
Thank you Peter.

 

[PeterL]

genuinely like heath Robinson as much as anyone else, but isn't it odd - brexitters either parody remainers' arguments, or say more persuasive arguments should be made to change their minds (Woosh) - without providing substantial arguments for it. There's something quite regressed going on for electorate I think, maybe it's too many years of being mollycoddled and not having to think for themselves. I honestly don't think anything short of a proper recession (or world war) can fix that.

Come on Steb, surely you have been reading the posts of OG / Oldtom? Oldtom does exactly that all day - with insults to boot.

 

[PeterL]

it's so funny!
Thank you Peter.

Glad someone appreciated it - thank you! Could be the basis for the levels of Human Intelligence that you seek, before we have the Forum run by robots?

 

[Steb]

Come on Steb, surely you have been reading the posts of OG / Oldtom? Oldtom does exactly that all day - with insults to boot.

Look at it this way - if I take an axe to your car and mangle 30% of its value to rubbish, how would you respond? That's what brexit'done so far to UK assets (not to mention more subjectively culture). If one takes uni formed actions that harm one's neighbours, badly, there will be anger.

 

[PeterL]

Look at it this way - if I take an axe to your car and mangle 30% of its value to rubbish, how would you respond? That's what brexit'done so far to UK assets (not to mention more subjectively culture). If one takes uni formed actions that harm one's neighbours, badly, there will be anger.

That sounds more like a threat to me.

Like this you mean?

Brexit-supporting students getting abuse on campus

 

[PeterL]

The tory in-fighting has intensified after May's appointment of Williamson - here are some early comments.....and not from socialists!

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I can't stop laughing at this because it's about the very people making a complete arris of 'Brexit', still trying to hoodwink the public into believing that there's a crock of gold at the end of this rainbow the two-year A50 process. They can't even organise their own team let alone the biggest peacetime change ever contemplated by a British government.

Tom

Try this one - far more balanced

Conservative MP Bob Stewart - a former Army colonel - described Mr Williamson as a "decent, calm man... he's also a very thoughtful man".

"He won't know much about defence but I believe the civil service in the Ministry of Defence, the generals and the Armed Forces themselves won't mind that too much because he's the sort of person that will listen carefully, take advice but then make his own decision."

 

[oldgroaner]

Now that sounds more like something about the Brexit negoti-machinations. Let's put a robot on the job, has AI been tried?

Not Al , but Boris, David and Liam are on the job, they are actually second hand crash dummy robots we got are old TV series , cunningly hidden inside second hand dummies from Madam Tussauds.

The original Brexit ministers are now living in some far off sunny country.
and no one has spotted the switch as the dummies make the same noises and mistakes.

 

[oldgroaner]

Didn't the AI sonar/radar/bathy-whatsit not autopilot them out of shallows?

Actually the old lead weight on a rope could do that quite well!

 

[oldgroaner]

Try this one - far more balanced

Conservative MP Bob Stewart - a former Army colonel - described Mr Williamson as a "decent, calm man... he's also a very thoughtful man".

"He won't know much about defence but I believe the civil service in the Ministry of Defence, the generals and the Armed Forces themselves won't mind that too much because he's the sort of person that will listen carefully, take advice but then make his own decision."

In other words they will mutually ignore each other.

And his decisions would be worthless, which is after all the Gold standard for any Conservative political response.

What could possibly go wrong?
Did anyone watch the Peter Sellers film "The Mouse that Roared"?
We are now in the position of the Fictional "Duchy of Grand Fenwick" in every respect.