I had wondered when I first read that, as they seem to have a far higher suicide rate? I don't say that in anyway other than factual as it would seem to fly in the face of happiness? That said I did have many good times in Stockholm some years ago. Great place, lovely people and generally very happy.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Lack of sunlight might have something to do with the suicide rate. At least that is a theory that boffins in white coats chuck about... Light-therapy ring a bell?
German draft position on future UK-EU relationship seems not to insist on agreeing the divorce bill.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/germany-drafts-outline-of-eu-u-k-ties-post-brexit-paper-shows
This may confirm that the current TM's approach is the most efficient.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/germany-drafts-outline-of-eu-u-k-ties-post-brexit-paper-shows
This may confirm that the current TM's approach is the most efficient.
From the Guardian
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EU leaders aim to let Theresa May down gently over trade talks
PM’s counterparts at summit will refuse to widen Brexit negotiations but talk up her efforts for fear of weakening her further"
What happened to "Strong and Stable?" now she is down to the
"Pathetic and Pitiful."
Next we get to the terminal phase, in the words of Woody Allen
"Instantly she reverted to the old Navajo Indian trick of Screaming and Begging!"
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EU leaders aim to let Theresa May down gently over trade talks
PM’s counterparts at summit will refuse to widen Brexit negotiations but talk up her efforts for fear of weakening her further"
What happened to "Strong and Stable?" now she is down to the
"Pathetic and Pitiful."
Next we get to the terminal phase, in the words of Woody Allen
"Instantly she reverted to the old Navajo Indian trick of Screaming and Begging!"
Which one?
- Doing as she is told and paying up
- Looking Pathetic and weak and begging for Charity?
I have some sympathy for her, to be the diplomatic face of the negotiation on her own until the deadline.
OG, you should study the German paper. There is a lot in there to confirm convergence in UK-EU on future relationship that puts security, citizen protection, air travel above trade.
On trade, we are moving toward a Swiss style agreement.
This is the future if the UK drops out of the EU.
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If what you say was true, she would have had the trade talks started already.
As I understand, the UK intends to have a draft agreement based on the Swiss model by October 2018, leaving the detailed negotiation until the transition.
It really doesn't matter, does it? outside the EU only a downhill slide into serious trouble can and will result.
We simply don't have the means to do other than rely on foreigners to take over our manufacturing and trade with the biggest sell out of all time to even begin to survive.
The end result will be that far from "Taking back control" collectively as a nation we will simply become the property of Foreigners and our Government their agents.
We are 50% of the way to that already, aren't we?
That is the Fate looming before us.
Outside of the EU and Foreign owned by any Country with the means to snap up a second hand nation to asset strip.
Brexit gets down to a basic situation.
We can't go on as we are and need major reorganisation.
With only two realistic questions to face
And our Government have any authority to act on behalf of the public Good?
We can't go on as we are and need major reorganisation.
With only two realistic questions to face
- Where will investment come from to make us a success?
- Who will then own the result?
And our Government have any authority to act on behalf of the public Good?
So typically UK, choosing the way that will take many years to do a part of the job, ending up with an inadequate and disadvantageous situation. Consistent at least.
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we are split more or less in the middle, there is no other way than delaying until one side is proven more right than the other.
If we go for the Swiss model, there is no reason why the Japanese, Americans and Chinese won't continue to pour their money into the UK like before.
Bringing about the situation I spoke of where we are literally owned by others and have lost all pretence of being an independent nation.
Sorry but simply existing as the property of Foreign nations was surely the very thing the Voters for Brexit absolutely voted AGAINST?
What Value has a nation that owns nothing, has no control over the way it's industry and commerce run, its politics are at the whim of the foreign companies that own everything, and a public outraged that it's vote for change brought change all right, it made matters far, far worse!
And it is overshadowed by the neighbours in the biggest trade and military block on the world?
And no one can see trouble looming?
For crying out loud!
Great Britain also known as the Cuba of the West.
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True. The biggest worry with the Swiss model of subject by subject trade agreement is that it doesn't include any access for services. The EU countries won't discuss that as a trade subject. They are a huge part of our foreign earnings as they are for the Swiss, so for both of us a big disadvantage.
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I don't.
That is the inevitable result of democracy. When we place democracy above all other values, we have to accept a lot of implied freedoms, so ownership by foreign nationals or companies is an inevitable result, so don't complain about that.
The opposite of what you describe is exemplified this week by China as we see on TV, a directed economy where the economy is placed above democracy.
Not much hope of you agreeing with me is there? but events will prove you are very badly wrong, and China proves my point with great clarity.
That way will only lead to disaster, as whereas in China the Government directs the economy, here the Foreign Companies will direct Government policy, and that will only benefit them.
that's only a model, as there are more than 100 bilateral agreements between the EU and Switzerland.
We'll probably go for a tougher regime on EU immigration and a higher budget contribution.
you are a socialist at heart, I am a democrat.
No, you are a Corporatist, nothing democratic about giving the power that should belong to the public into corporate hands to decide their fate.
Selling your body and soul to anyone willing to buy it, to become Company Property as a worker Drone, doesn't have a place in Democracy