The opportunities are there, for the public to be mugged, and once they are ,watch the sparks fly!
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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I agree it will be a big surprise, not not alright on the night or the days or weeks or months following
trade between Switzerland and the EU is similar to UK/EU.
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The graph above shows the progress since 1995.
Since, the trade deficit with the EU reduces, in 2016 is only 20 billion Euros.
It would be good if we follow the same path.
'it will be all right on the night' does sound a rock solid premise for gambling the country's future on. Seriously, brexit seems like crack cocaine, it makes otherwise sentient intelligent souls come out with stuff king julien in penguins of Madagascar would find challenging.
Any idea how the graphs look if you remove the UK figures from within the EU ones? We are very close to the Swiss snip:trade between Switzerland and the EU is similar to UK/EU.
The graph above shows the progress since 1995.
Since, the trade deficit with the EU reduces, in 2016 is only 20 billion Euros.
It would be good if we follow the same path.
Economic cooperation
Switzerland and the UK are important to each other as trading partners and have close economic ties. Liberal economic systems and open markets are high priorities for both countries.
In 2016, the UK was Switzerland's third most important export market in the world (approx. CHF 32 billion) and the fourth largest source of Switzerland's imports (approx. CHF 18.7 billion), which amounts to a trade volume of CHF 50 billion.
At the end of 2015, Swiss direct investments in the UK stood at CHF 51 billion, which makes the UK the fifth most important destination for Swiss direct investments. Almost 93,000 jobs in the UK depend on Swiss investments.
At the end of 2015, UK direct investments in Switzerland stood at CHF 31.3 billion. The number of jobs in Switzerland that can be attributed to British investments stands at approximately 27,000.
Both Switzerland and the UK have major financial centres. There are consequently regular exchanges between supervisory authorities, central banks and banking associations.
This is better. Perhaps, we can agree there is no further need from either side to bother to pander to simple questions. Let's go further, keep things really simple, don't even ask.
Tends to be true and is a phrase often used in military circles where realism favours the use of words such as 'Should', rather than 'Will" and you will rarely see certainty expressed over a future arranged event. That's not to say there won't meticulous planning involved, for the potential problems that might arise but in the end, experience and training will make it alright on the night. That's confidence, not a lot of that on here I note!
Well, the entire nightmare came about as a result of a contrived simplistic question (do you want to destroy you and your children's livelihoods by threatening to cut all ties with your larger more civilised neighbour) asked by the utterly insincere of the utterly uninformed. So, yes, in a sense less disingenuous pandering to 'simple questions' seem spot on
I was meaning on here and whilst I think I hear what you say and it may well be that OG is the fat old git you imply. I wouldn't buy anything from him, not even an opinion.
A bit late to this discussion perhaps, but breaking ties with the EU in favour of trade deals with far off countries seems a bit like me, instead of going to the local shop making a 300 mile trip for a Mars Bar. In view of the Bombardier debacle, I wouldn't pay any heed to any guarantees of trade from the world's biggest Twitter Troll, either. My opinion only, but I don't think "our leaders" expected the outcome, and Nigel Silage should have had his passport revoked and made to stay and carry on with what "he started", and the millionaire Bruce DICKinson must be quaking in his aeroplane.
Our newbie prime minister . Leo , him with the L plates and stabiliser wheels , made
a very interesting comment today, which I had not previously considered... All 1.5 million of the residents in northern Ireland are entitled to full Irish citizenship and EU citizenship, and yes that includes you Tommie,, as a direct consequence of the Anglo Irish agreement, irrespective of their political allegiance. Many are already opting for this, and many more will opt in future to avail of european travel rights.
The UK government is therefore seeking to control the actions of an entire population who have rights above and beyond what the UK might consider.
It is not within the gift of the UK to restrict these rights by act of parliament or otherwise, as they are signatories to a treaty lodged with the UN.
a very interesting comment today, which I had not previously considered... All 1.5 million of the residents in northern Ireland are entitled to full Irish citizenship and EU citizenship, and yes that includes you Tommie,, as a direct consequence of the Anglo Irish agreement, irrespective of their political allegiance. Many are already opting for this, and many more will opt in future to avail of european travel rights.
The UK government is therefore seeking to control the actions of an entire population who have rights above and beyond what the UK might consider.
It is not within the gift of the UK to restrict these rights by act of parliament or otherwise, as they are signatories to a treaty lodged with the UN.
You would have to be a complete idiot to have confidence in this Government.
After all the mess we are in is entirely due to their incompetence and idiot fringe.
Yet you would from the Conservative government? and fell for the Brexit lies?
That has to be very funny indeed!
You don't seem to actually have opinions, just trot out the standard Conservative Office official lines, which frankly are worthless.
So how about actually coming up with a GOOD reason that Brexit will benefit the whole population rather than the high class parasites?
So far you have cited figures alleging to indicate there is money to be made, but none of this will benefit the public will it? but then that's not a concern of Conservatives is it anyway?
The clue was in the nom de plume but I'm encouraged that you saw the joke. Many of us are at our age, sorry let me rephrase that - some of us are.
There are always faults in both sides, by design this country was slowly turned into a "parasite" nation making money out of other peoples money. "Our" manufacturing base, regardless of how badly managed it was, has all but disappeared. Instead of making things that people want, the government still wants to chase finance, and investment from foreign climes, who vanish the minute someone else offers more appealing subsidies. The current government is running about like a weakened headless chicken, with the distinct possibility that its next leader could be a "circus clown" or, a "Stingray Baddie" ,sorry Michael Gove.
Attachments
Well if anyone wants a read this evening read this:
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/921068161692205057
Its the government report that deals with the consequences of us leaving the EU without a deal - exactly what the "wing-growers" are pushing on us now.
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/921068161692205057
Its the government report that deals with the consequences of us leaving the EU without a deal - exactly what the "wing-growers" are pushing on us now.
Oh, I do like a graph.trade between Switzerland and the EU is similar to UK/EU.
The graph above shows the progress since 1995.
Since, the trade deficit with the EU reduces, in 2016 is only 20 billion Euros.
It would be good if we follow the same path.
This one shows how our role as the gateway to the EU, is looking less stable already.
