That the public don't recognise a nutcase when they see one - or even hear one come to that? 'Tell me lies' Fleetwood Mac make the case.No but you try to make out I'm saying that, why, I wonder?
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That the public don't recognise a nutcase when they see one - or even hear one come to that? 'Tell me lies' Fleetwood Mac make the case.No but you try to make out I'm saying that, why, I wonder?
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Not my style - I come from up North too remember.No, you have been using broad sweeping statements, that's not new,the problem is they didn't make sense.
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Clearly they don't, or they certainly wouldnt have been taken in by Boris, Gove and co, or for that matter Cameron who was exposed lying on tv but still got elected afterwards at the GE,That the public don't recognise a nutcase when they see one - or even hear one come to that? 'Tell me lies' Fleetwood Mac make the case.
One could say that trouble was on the horizon whatever the result.Temporarily, till the trouble starts
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That is something we can agree on, brexit was a protest against bad government diverted at the wrong target, the EU instead of the real culprit, the UK government.One could say that trouble was on the horizon whatever the result.
Yes, we can agree on that. However, I do think that much of that is down to us being in the EU and the simple fact that in many ways the need for ALL those politicians and parties is unnecessary, in the EU. They have lost their purpose and with that comes all those other human frailties. I know you like the vision of an USE but I and many others do not.That is something we can agree on, brexit was a protest against bad government diverted at the wrong target, the EU instead of the real culprit, the UK government.
When they make a hash of brexit and the public suffer, then there will be real trouble, and you can't fix that with a fiddled referendum.
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The simple truth of that the USE is inevitable like it or not, and now we will have lost the chance to influence its development through fearYes, we can agree on that. However, I do think that much of that is down to us being in the EU and the simple fact that in many ways the need for ALL those politicians and parties is unnecessary, in the EU. They have lost their purpose and with that comes all those other human frailties. I know you like the vision of an USE but I and many others do not.
Not by choice, remember?Oi...it was me you insulted...
And OG is Hull, which doesn't count..They decided to leave and then come back...They were Humberside for a few weeks ..
Fear would not have been the reason at all, why do you say that?The simple truth of that the USE is inevitable like it or not, and now we will have lost the chance to influence its development through fear
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Remind me - which way - I would assume boundary changes?Not by choice, remember?
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East YorkshireRemind me - which way - I would assume boundary changes?
Fear of loss of identity is the obvious reason, isn't it,?Fear would not have been the reason at all, why do you say that?
Loss of identity has been responsible for more troubles in this world than probably anything else. You only have to look at the situation in Spain to understand that, and Ireland, of course. You or indeed anyone else ignore that at your (their) peril. People do need to group together for self interest and protection from other predatory peoples but, there is a limit to this and removing ones identity is not a solution.Fear of loss of identity is the obvious reason, isn't it,?
Sorry for these very brief responses, I'm unable to connect to the forum with the laptop for some reason on this caravan site and having to use the phone.
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Droll as usual, we spend a third of the year away in the caravan traveling around the countryLoss of identity has been responsible for more troubles in this world than probably anything else. You only have to look at the situation in Spain to understand that, and Ireland, of course. You or indeed anyone else ignore that at your (their) peril. People do need to group together for self interest and protection from other predatory peoples but, there is a limit to this and removing ones identity is not a solution.
Sorry to hear that you are one of the Trailer Trash community, only temporary I'm sure?
Sorry to hear that of course , hope she enjoys this trip.Droll as usual, we spend a third of the year away in the caravan traveling around the country
My wife has Alzheimer's and she loves the peace of the countryside
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So far, so good, thank you for your response.Sorry to hear that of course , hope she enjoys this trip.
The trick is to have pride in where one comes from, be able to honestly recognise it's faults while respecting that others, who are less fortunate , by coming from elsewhere are are worthy , and may feel equally proud of their god forsaken patch....Loss of identity has been responsible for more troubles in this world than probably anything else. You only have to look at the situation in Spain to understand that, and Ireland, of course. You or indeed anyone else ignore that at your (their) peril. People do need to group together for self interest and protection from other predatory peoples but, there is a limit to this and removing ones identity is not a solution.
Sorry to hear that you are one of the Trailer Trash community, only temporary I hope - can't blame it on BREXIT?
. I was born in Soho!The trick is to have pride in where one comes from, be able to honestly recognise it's faults while respecting that others, who are less fortunate , by coming from elsewhere are are worthy , and may feel equally proud of their god forsaken patch....