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Spouting stuff like ruins this thread. Its sort of comments that would get you ushered out of question time by Dimbleby...and rightly so.

Yep , it probably is. Heseltine said as much other night, but your tone and attitude in post almost perfectly reinforces my point, perhaps you could have found a spelling mistake to correct to emphasise your assumed superior knowledge... When has calling folk concrete heads not been an insult...

The instructions were for people to stay in their flats until fire fighters told them otherwise. A neighbour knocking on your door and shouting fire may well simply make folk stay put.There was a report of a woman deliberately flooding her flat rather than leave.( I believe both her and family...

The fire service people I,ve spoken with ( one of whom is an investigator) is quite convinced of two things. a) Real death toll is much higher than currently reported. b) The temperatures reached in the flats ( even with a cursory study of pictures its obvious temp was very high) will have...

Ok, then we don't need to stop insulting each other because "my side" are in the right... That justifies both sides actions. Wonder how many wars have been fought with God and "righness" on both sides. And BTW I,m not suggesting for a moment anybody stops expressing views , quite the reverse...

Too right its changed. Everyone has lost the little civility we had, extremes from all over have been emboldened and feel free to express both their hate and opinions. Yed the majority of us do not act on any of the rhetoric but the less controlled ( more insane) from either end feel justified...

OG You know full well your whinging whining refusing to accept change has created situation we now find ourselves in, not in, not out, going nowhere,weak government weaker opposition. Your insulting patronizing attitude adopted from start by remainers and extreme left has fractured country. You...

You already greeted me , in my absence??? Anyhow here now..morning OG....its spreading...( dementia) Days of Rage are all the rage. I’m thinking of having one myself. Why should rage be the exclusive preserve of the Fascist Left? OK, so the million-strong march which was supposed to bring down...

Morning OG.???!!

To be fair I think she,s a lone wolf. She says controversial things against and for anybody to stay in lime light. She has a point here though OG.

Things are bad when this woman starts making sense ... "KATIE HOPKINS: Britain is at boiling point and if we want to step back from the brink we need to stop screaming at each other like kids and start talking together like adults " ????

It spawned longest thread in history and gave OG chance to write his memoirs, and probably brought Tory government down ??? So all in all not a bad start...or finish ...???Who knows anymore.. Its made us all much more politically aware and united so many of us, especially on this forum..( you...

Yes you are right. Human race hasn't grown up yet, we are still barbarians, civilised simply means town dwelling...

Slightly off topic but years ago ( with demand for soldiers to carry more rounds) ballistics experts worked out how to get a seemingly small bullet ( travelling very very quickly) to have stopping power of larger counterpart. The 5 .56 mm round is teetering on instability ( they reduced turns in...

Your lighthearted and humorous one liners will be missed. If you are reading this, good luck. Didn't realise I,d upset you but ahwell, I,ll blame Brexit.

Woosh Not sure if that makes you worse than me or not, you right wing apologist... Good old Tom. What apilock.

Its Tom sticking pins in dolls ...or Gout...

Isn't your post a bit contradictory?

I certainly was not making any political statements about Brexit or labour/ tory faults. To be fair I don't think Tom was either. The questions he raised would be applicable who ever in power.

This incident just shows yet again what a complete and utter shambles our planning/ building reg implementation is in. Recently renovated a property on East Coast. Not allowed plastic windows,double glazing or a roof light...because its visible from nearby church! ( about a mile away) but these...