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Be careful, might join you in co op window. Point is Blair was in early years saviour to Socialism. Much as he is seen now he was popular originally. You don't always get what you expect. We should all have a thing about him; what he did to country and labour party.

Where does that leave us with Blair Tom. Not sure but I,d bet you voted for him and he proved worse than even those in power now..

I totally agree with that. You explained it better than I could, perhaps others never need to resort to this to get home. I often do. ( Mine is Yamaha tho, but noticed very similar )

I hope in this rare case you are right OG.. But do you really believe Tories could possibly fight a worse election under worse circumstances than last one? Cant imagine it myself. The party will be hard at work bringing back into fold some leader more personable than TM, their spin will be being...

D Cant imagine Eddie running a dongle though...

Yes, they do. They are using the uncertainty to hide real figures , putting oweness on Fire Service to prove an occupant died in flat is wrong, but its what is happening. It seems there are no figures for occupancy but I,m fairly sure some body could calculate a reasonable figure...ie check...

Mark my words, by next election Tories will be way stronger..there really is only one way for them to go now...

OG uses one of the latter...seen him on it weaving through traffic near Humber Bridge..going like feck, in a rush to cut and waste some more nonsense on here.

Very predictable OG. Choose a few ( wrong) adjectives to classify my stance, ramble on quite a bit wallowing in your own self rightousness but offer neither an explanation as to why Labour lost last election ( blaming people like me is at best subjective and answers nothing) and then no advice...

As a socialist I find this situation apalling. Labour cant even get into power when best Tories have is TM and Boris. Only left wing loonies could see situation as positive,or hope of revolution or something, which is never going to happen. Labour has thrown away the opportunity of a generation...

You listen all the time OG...always offer a reply or an insult, more normally the latter. You insist on personising the issues and insist I have it all wrong but offer no explanation or even change .. Answer this OG ( without insulting me if possible) ...At a time when Tories are at an all time...

Yes, you obviously have not, or simply refuse to accept the point. Posting and commenting on Mail,s behaviour 80 years ago( which both yourself and Tom have done) merely indicates your level of extremism. But like I,ve said before its a waste of time making any points to you.. Neither of you...

The salient part The point is: damn the Mail if you will for what it publishes now. But Rothermere the Second, Rothermere the Third (Vere) and now Rothermere the Fourth (Jonathan) cannot be held responsible for the views of the first of their line. Roy Greenslade. The Guardian. Its like...

Long article but suggest Tom and OG both read it. One of the things that always makes me furious is the knee-jerk stupidity of saying that the Daily Mail used to support fascism, thereby implying that it is somehow tainted goods in its modern form. I certainly have my differences with the...

Other thing I,ve wondered ( but by the way great posts above, all of them) is exactly how little power is needed in bottom gear to climb at the accompanying very low speed. In lowest gear the motor can still spin at I,d guess 2000rpm (ie I,d have thought max cadence ( 85 or so) would represent...

I don't know why you are always going on about Blair ??

Afraid it isn't Soundwave. Once temperature is above a certain point all trace of human remains disappears. Its going to be more of an investigation for missing people than actually determining who has died. Yes, its awful but I don't think , on this issue, government are covering anything up...

OG and Tom The mere fact you two have so much support for JC lends credence to any comments about loony left, only reinforced with your references to right wing conspiracy media plots and fascist control of our government.

Good link...I,d realised your point about dongle after a few outings.. In my usage I found dongle simply lowers my range...to extend range I don't change setting simply ride at / hover around 16 mph whenever poss. The dongle lifts that to perhaps 18 , consequently lowering my contribution...

That's spot on Woosh..I had about 5% too get back down..Was on fire tracks in Spain... So where does that put us with the 750 watts Dve8 speaks of... Looked to me as tho power bars were on full nearly all time..( going up) Its a ride I could not dream of completing without e help... Saying bike...