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Thanks Danidl. Agreed, and likewise UK isn't guilt free.

Agreed totally flecc. Yes, Vietnam War might not have been totally pointless but then after congressional investigation revealed all the early information and French involvement it was felt USA had been " had" ( their words) by supposed Allies. ( French) Modern Europe tends to forget or not even...

Whatever their justification does not take away the fact French had very strong colonial desires and were willing to kill thousands enforcing them..( until they were totally out manoevered by Giap and suffered thousands upon thousands of their own dead.

Yes, again quite true but Vietnam was well on its way to becoming a democracy under Ho Chi Min in 1945/6 and under American OSS guidance. The Vietnamese were wanting to be recognised and nobody did. The French marched in, drove Ho Chi Min north. Americans were in a quandary and very worried...

The Japanese kicked the French out. Viet Minh inherited Vietnam post Hiroshima. French re invaded 1946 under DeGaulle, who at time said a great power like France needed colonies. I,ve said all along post WW2.

Yes , I agree flecc. The Anericans were anti colonial post WW2 and as such people should get to know what part the French played in Americans getting involved in Vietnam.

Its fact Flecc. How can you disagree.?

BS.Anybody who believes this rubbish might think they know about models of democracy but are clueless with simple arithmetic. Our 1 representative commissioner ( out of 28) represents our 60 million population...Its democracy by name alone. Yes , his vote carries slightly more weight than...

Ho Chi Min wanted originally to establish Ametican based democracy.Their first independence constitution was a copy of American. Crass decisions and intervention by the French forced him.to seek help from the Chinese. Just post war American OSS actually trained Viet Minh. French turned to UK for...

Seems Robdon has an issue with democracy.

And presumably the rest of EU, specifically France, has been absolutely fine. Our colonial ambitions were killed stone dead by end of second world war, we,d realised the game was up and worked towards where we are today. Everybody turns a blind eye to France and De Gaulle. He actually stated...

The sheer scale of the EU experiment renders the entire system faceless. UK with its 60 million voters only represents ( at last EU estimate) 13% of EU. Yes , its a model of democracy, but becomes government of the people by "other" people. Ofcourse its faceless and way more than Westminster ...

I,ll stick to watching football tonight now OG...you never know, we might beat Germans.

The figure can not include offshore, its FDI, and any that went would be a debit and so lower figure...( the figure is net, debits ie sold investments have to be subtracted to produce an actual figure.. Its called Foreign Direct Investment for a reason OG...) The whole point of offshore is to...

Give up OG...its investments. The money isn't destined for anything or anyone except the companies ( or whatever) the cash is invested in.. How long do you think we,d be attracting that level of investment if they were in ponzi schemes... Yes, there may be all sorts of tax fiddles..avoidance etc...

???? Not sure what you mean on this OG ?? Sorry. The investment value I quoted was all coming into UK or UK reg companies. ( Yes over £600 billion a year) It could be increased if such as Hargreaves were allowed to get on with it. This is why EU wants us to stay, not for our good...but theirs.

Its a good job rest of world does not share OG and,George,s pessimism. FDI ( foreign direct investment) has increased over last 4 years. In 2016 it was around £110 billion. Portfolio Investment ( of all origin ) was around same. The total invested in UK ( companies , markets, bonds , etc etc)...

I said we ( meaning our government) not EU or IMF... If we don't we are really in a mess.

Yes, I can see that. Suspect our upkeep is rather more and I,ll bet Sweden does not have as many Ashcrofts...( who give Capitalism a bad name. We need to be good but fair with capitalism)

Sorry George, I cant see your reply.