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Tom You have called Tories scum, leavers idiots,Tillsin, myself and Woosh racists ( and myself a troll ) and alikekened the Queen to Myra Hindley. Your replies to Woosh and Peterl have been disgusting. . You are a great advert for leaving. And by the way where does your aggresive , vindictive...

Daniel Exactly right and why cant we use both systems when appropriate? Yes, obviously SI is easier for engineering ( but we didn't do badly with Whitworth/ AF etc) Making people buy in undesired units is wrong. Why is it some remainers ( not flecc/ Daniel) have taken brexit as an excuse to be...

Nice one.

Agreed, as do some remainers.

To be fair it really shocked me how accepting of smoking laws both the Spanish and French bars were. One English chap asked French bar keeper where smoking shelter was,it was raining, The bar tender produced an umbrella from behind the bar and handed it over...

You dont think the xenophobic, racist, fear card has been played by many remainers to discredit all leavers ???

So it seems...in many ways..( no criticism of you in that Flecc)

I,m lost now Danid, you said EU had not imposed 15 5 mph ( 25 kph) limit on pedelecs, hence my question. We used to enforce a 12bhp limit on learner riders. EU made that 11kw which is as near as dam it 15bhp( 14.7 BHP) it was an EU figure..as I thought the pedelec figure had been . ( or is)

No, it is not you fool. I was making point they ignore the rules we adhere to. I was not making point they are yobs, far from it. I actually posted later saying we should be more like it.( as did Flecc who also posted he ignores irrelevant laws)

To be fair Flecc I must say that attitude has come from other side of pond...One of things I did like about living in Spain/ France was the lack of " where there is blame there,s a claim"... But I must also add there are places in Frrnch/ Spanish villages that would attract at least warning...

Where did the 15.5 mph limit come from ? Or for that matter the 11kw learner limit ??? Sounds more EU than UK ???

Mmm. How do you buy your fuel in Gallons when its sold in litres ???

Are you assuming we should just ignore EU directives and , for example, just continue selling fuel in Gallons and potatoes in lbs..??? Civil disobedience? Surely not from you flecc ? And by the way gallons are an infinitely more sensible unit for buying petrol/ diesel. We know and understand...

The remainers seem unable to understand biggest part of business success is confidence in markets. Since last June they have done nothing but put country down and then blame Brexit for exactly the things this destruction of confidence has caused. Its been self full filling and the example OG...

Its not just yobs in Spain, France and Greece...its the entire nations.

Come on flecc we all know full well all those laws are ignored. ( my own Haibike was totally illegal when purchased, second hand) Every other post on here is telling how to detestrict or build your own Firblade challenging Ebike. Just another example of laws being flouted, esprcially EU ones...

And OG..

I was quoting from "EU facts behind the claims: UK influence" Look under Democracy..They were not opinions but findings.

These issues are above and beyond my 13% . "Compared to a country, the EU has democratic shortcomings Seen in that light, there are a number of key democratic shortcomings or failings in a Changing Europe Fellows Sara Hagemann and Simon Usherwood: •The European Council and the Council of...

Its a convincing and fair argument but ( and its rather a large but) how many years are we off that ideal..and its at a level of assimilation nobody actually envisaged back in 70's. Should all this have been put to the electorate back then ? Well no , because it wasn't envisaged then. The EU has...