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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Like all my posts OG totally spurious ( and a comment of affection ofcourse) Was in reply to this forum being only place discussing Brexit..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Vince Cable is just trying to make a name for himself...well a bigger one. He has always been a fool and always will be but for some reason moderates seem to like him..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well like crocodile Dundee had a donk...we,ve got an OG..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Does it say END when you turn mug around ???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How on earth do you know that ? Which opinion poll ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes , without doubt..we should not be looking at this decision as win or lose. It should simply be the choice of the majority of voters. If its not so , we all lose. Since first referendum things have really changed. Its become apparent our government are incapable of delivering what was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Seems neither side actually want a referendum . Are they both worried the result will go against them ???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thing is Kudos surely we should find out? Any folk not wanting one simply think they would not get decision they desire, not sure that's quite democracy ?? ( yes,,I know...nothing new there then !)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    By 2040 we are going T see a massive increase in demand , we will need some type of massive storage facility..Whichever is chosen will be expensive.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes,I realise all that. I,m asking about the mechanics of getting the energy out the bags...and are bags simoly pulled deeper to store more energy, or filled more ??? Bags under water covers a lot of scope for various systems / concepts.. One of easier large energy storage systems is already...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Come on explain !
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's more than I,d have guessed..rather different to a gas though !
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Should have tried it with air, would have been loads more interesting, but perhaps you might not be able to tell us story now..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The pressure rises but the density remains constant. ( Until extreme pressures ,water compresses minute amounts but not until 1000's of bar are attained) Under that level any work done compressing the fluid would be waisted. Fluids can not be compressed, as a means of energy storage.They can...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How is hydraulic power stored,surely its springs , compressed gas or something similar...??? I,d guess its not the hydraulics storing energy, merely a means of transferring it.?? ( pneumatics are different) ??? Hydraulics by nature can not be compressed,hence cant store energy??? An accumulator...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There aren't any, they are on Tele just after pointless...which seems quite apt.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Look on the Danish Wind Industry website. The diameter of the blades at Frais are 112 m. The tip max height is 125 m. Hub height near enough 75 m. Put in a figure of 6.1 at 25 m...( on their reactive spread sheet) and it gives the following 6.85 m/s at 130 m. And 6.4 at hub height. Wind sheer...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Danid This is general info about frais wind farm. Start Speed: 5 m/s (11.185 mph) Optimum Speed: 15 m/s (33.555 mph) Stop Speed: 25 m/s (55.925 mph) Not sure about this farm but know for a fact those in Leucate shut down at 80 kmh/ 50 mph.( I know site manager at Leucate, I suspect all do same...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They always say follow the money for the truth. Electricity is sold back to grid at £76.40 per MWH..its not difficult to work back from the £3.5 million,( calculate how many MWH were bought) the fact Fraisthorpe is a 30 MW farm and arrive at efficiency. It works out from this at between 17 and...