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    Hurricane devastation

    There are longer lasting issues this time with the devastation. I can only speak of BVI, which was the centre for both Moorings and Sunsail charters. They employed hundreds of people and brought millions of pounds to the island. They had what they thought was a hurricane proof safe area, where...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Me neither but where is the alternative ? Gove ? Boris ? JRM? or heaven forbid Corbyn ? They are all saying same thing...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do you mean like Corbyn?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Still nothing actually said OG... You are deliberately missing point. BFN..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As normal, nothing actually said. I,ve spent last week or so reading up on Labour's and Corbyn's position on Brexit. He is without doubt anti EU. Anybody thinking he is biding his time and then taking over ,eventually saving the day, is seriously misled. He wants government freedom to carry out...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Many on here not only believe the lie Tillson so rightly explains, they openly promote that lie to damage Brexit and discredit those that support it. These people then ironically tell us Brexit is result of right wing propoganda, when in reality its these very people who have been brainwashed by...
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    Americans have found irony

    The Tesla S is unbelievable..went out in one a few weeks ago...astonishing...if that's good for environment...bring it on..It cant be...Made my Boxster S feel positively ....errr...not switched on...Really...would leave Boxster standing.. After 5 miles or so we did get " batteries are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The entire episode has been swept under carpet, cant say much because wife is involved in current police investigations ( she was a social worker in one of affected regions) We have only herd a fraction of what happened and of what's happening...I suspect inninterests of civil rest what's...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its inevitable Peterl. There is no actual debating with OG.. PS A brave act is a brave act wether ordered to do it or not. Infact probably braver when asked, told to do it. Many brave actions are done on spur of moment. When asked to do something you always have time to contemplate...after which...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    " 'Woosh', a man obsessed by facts, figures, statistics, pie charts and graphs, was the contributor who drew a distinction between technicians and graduates, his suggestion appearing to be that technicians are not necessarily the product of our university system." That's compliment Woosh, from...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really are dreaming OG...absolutely not a shred of evidence to suggest socialism ( in your almost communist view) could ever work. Infact plenty to show us it can not work. I,ve witnessed working socialism in Steel industry, mine industry and human nature prevents it ever working...Its a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No I have not. I,ve maitained throughout country needs Tory financial policies with Labours commitment to social care. Its exactly the concept new labour promoted, unfortunately they developed a liking for wars and lying...bbut anybody who thinks socialist economic policies would see our...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is impossible to know and totally hypothetical, which to be fair this entire discussion is..since we ARE leaving. Labour are not offering an alternative, us arguing pro and cons of staying or leaving is pointless ..Unless Labour come to their senses in next month or so.. And no, I don't...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG Where,s your proof staying in EU will help. There is no proof either way, but we know if we stay in things will continue as last 20 years, which by your own admission we are in a mess.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But leavers could easily say " Where are benefits from being in a united States Of Europe, we don't accept any positive arguments you,ve made about being in such a place" ( which actually I don't) We all know full well remaining now will mean us being part of USE.. And look exactly where being...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't beat yourself up Tom.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You,ve replied to your own quote OG...might be more productive if you replied to my last post ?? The offensive language was an error..Apologies. I,ll change it to disagree... ( changed)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps, I was trying to be fair. unbiased.
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    Rides illegal machine - kills pedestrian & blames her........

    Perhaps they need a soundwave ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG Over course of this thread there have been lots of reasons put forward as to why we are better leaving, accepted there have been probably more for remain.Unfortunately like many things in life both sides have valid arguments. Each side simply chose to ignore the others points. What your...