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OG That's nonsense, and you know it is but you wont admit as such because Tom said it.

That's rich !

Seeds and stony ground I,m afraid...or perhaps more pork and education ???

Brilliant post...

Possibly ?? I realised your reply was to Woosh...but the point reflected an agreement with my premise.

Both OG...

And look where and what that has got us..be careful OG ...you nearly agreed with Zlatan...offered evidence to support his circular argument ???

Unless you are talking about me or OG ? And OG if my memory serves me ( which it rarely does) it wasn't Tw@t it was Pr!ck,there is a big difference but I,ve met a few who don't care which... And I did apologise... I think..( only occasionally before you say it)

Difference being OG I insult you as an individual and with ample evidence for the insult...I dont cart blanche insult all leavers...ir all tories...but well spotted..no flies on you...!

Well that depends where you,ve learnt your discernment. Its a characteristic we all think we have but everybody's is based on ones own choice of " facts" and reliable information. Some folk believe every word in the mail, some in canary, some on wiki, some on BBC. At moment as there are no...

Yes ofcourse there are people who think racist,idiotic, xenophobic and scum are positive attributes. Not many though...Don't include Troll, that is almost a compliment from Tom...

Going back to my earlier post... Not on about censorship at all...just think all media outlets over an agreed limit should be graded with that grade visible. We all like to quote this and that and even name source when it suits us...but many ( all ?) would not in my opinion deserve an "A"...

Slightly OT and not really in spirit of present discussion ....but don't posters think its about time there was a trully independent body to grade all media outlets ( including BBC and especially papers and blogs with over a specified viewing figure) for fact/lack of propoganda.. We all know the...

Barnier not doing himself favours saying he,s going to educate UK, the one thing Anglo Saxons dont need is lessons in arguing..ask OG ????

Tom You are just so insulting, I can understand your antagonism towards me, yes I,ve insulted you, but Woosh has shown nothing but patience and understanding toward you. Your last comment to Woosh was uncalled for and says more about you than it does Woosh. Have a good read of what you have...

You,ve been speaking to my wife...!!! Nice one...

Agreed , I can modify my opinions and even perform the occasional u turn.. Pity some politicians and Captain EJ Smith couldn't do same.. Believe it or not OG I do respect many of your opinions , you are just plain wrong on a few. Cant fault your attitude and tenacity. Think you should be rather...

Garbage as usual.And the exact attitude keeping labour out of power. The centre ground is where compromise can be found, either end aare the danger zones. If we look back through history I,d guess the extreme left have provided us with more tyrants than other end. To be fair TB is the worst...

Oh how the mighty fall. You end up on here...talking the same tosh. Was it the model T you discussed with Ford or perhaps the Edsel.? Besides earlier you said you worked removing stuff from fans in a boiler factory, probably the stuff you put there I,d guess. Make your mind up OG. What were you ?

Yes, I voted Labour...sort of like vast majority of us did in 1997... He was funded by unions, who he stabbed in the back.