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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/19/pfizer-urges-eu-back-away-vaccine-blockade-threat/ Of course EU hasn't got anything to do with it. If all you EU champions opened your eyes and actually admitted truth, we might actually get somewhere on here. Fact of the matter is like all...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Shame half of EU are ignoring it like they did last week.(the bit which says it's safe and effective for all age groups, like it did last week)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, I was been ironic. Glad you spotted it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Another request Polly? The totally useless UK roll out reached 26.4 million single jabs (cumulative) today. (approaching 50% of target group UK) England has hit milestone of 50% of target groups. (single jabs) Around 4% 2nd jabs. Daughter just back from volunteering at a mass vaccination...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well I, m glad it's all cleared up over vaccines in EU and France especially. They are preventing anybody under 55 from having AZ, apparently they are still ignoring EMA and have decided this age group are more likely to have clots, and since the vaccine is quasi effective for over 65s they are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How ironic. What about confidence in AZ vaccine. Can't find it now, I, ll have a search but apparently French take up for vaccine a month ago was estimated (by survey) at 40%. That rose quickly to 70%, report suggested as a consequence of UK roll out. Yesterday it had dropped back to 49%...with...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's not strange at all OG. Its felt by many that vaccines, whether one or 2 jabs, will not stop infection. They are known to prevent serious illness and death. At the moment the priority is to prevent as much as that as possible, with the jab delay being a good mechanism to do so. And, not...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You have made that argument numerous times along with OG. Yes, it perhaps has validity but exactly what insight do yourself and others have that JCVI do not. Its a very presuming position to take, ie you know more about risk and rewards than who ever is making the decisions. Last week you were...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-covid-paris-lockdown-b1819164.html And Micron sanctioned suspending roll out last week. Against wishes of EMA.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ask for another. I don't think you can OD on it. Doesn't sound very professional. Email your doctor. I would, definitely. And an antibody test in 2 weeks.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It isn't known 2 jabs prevent infection. I don't think it will. They suspect even folk who test negative will be able to carry and pass on infection. Its why they fear a wave come this winter. To be honest, now I, ve had jab, I, m not concerned about contracting illness. For me, the jab has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps they should suspend roll out for a week to relook at figures. That seems to do trick. The salient issue is not infection... Its death. 4 weeks after Pfizer jab my daughter, her husband and both kids picked infection up. They obviously counted as covid infections but speaking (zoom)...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He, s learning from EU.. Woosh I believe the first AZ vaccine in a non trial situation was administered on 7th December. Since that date approx 17 million further doses have been given in Europe. Every negative aspect, every side effect was passed on to EMA/JCVI at time it occurred (or shortly...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They had decided on Tuesday, actually a month last Tuesday. Are you smoking weed Danidl. You are making even less sense than normal. They have had zero new data. There was nothing new to examine. They have just relooked at the same data and obviously arrived at same conclusion. Its not usual to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve just watched a video of head of EMA announcing AZ vaccine is safe. I must be drinking too much,strongest deja vu I, ve ever had. They said it was live but I, m convinced I saw same woman say same thing last week. She seemed convincing..on both occasions. What's going on JHC.. Groundhog...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And.. They have made same decision Danidl. Vaccine is safe today, was safe yesterday and last week. Exactly as they have all been saying. Nobody has changed, no extra data generated. Nothing. But for some odd reason you are happy with their advice now, but happy it was ignored last week. I...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Extra analysis... You are joking aren't you. They have had no more data, no more trials, no more investigation. They have sat around a table, discussed where they would like to go on holiday and then said "let's repeat what we said last week..but in different order. "keep on vaccinating, there...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And Flecc still hasn't clarified if he,s now accepting EMA advice or not? Are you flecc? EMA are now right but were wrong? Or are you going down the consistent path. They were wrong last week and are still wrong? They have had 2 more days data... Oooh, that would help clarify it. Can't believe...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But that doesn't change the statistics at all. I accepted there might be a link but it still doesn't affect numbers. The risk of blood clot (even if there is a link) is 0.007 per 100,000 jabs. (contraceptive pill, taken daily BTW, is 0.6 per 100,000) EMA said all that last week. Their advice has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So flecc isn't going to listen to EMA next week either??