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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They do have a lot to gain. In years to come vaccines will bring massive revenues. Any criticism of AZ will have far reaching consequences on its future usage. Look at it the other way OG, why introduce false criticism. There really is no justification on safety concerns. Even from within EU...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wonder why ministers are responsible for such decisions. Take Italy for instance. Their overall "guidance" is EMA but that informs government through the Italian health ministry via similar organisations to such os our Sage. That entire structure is telling ministers AZ is safe, the hospital...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/16/european-commission-hits-eu-governments-hoarding-unused-covid/ This is doing no one any good. Its going from bad to worse.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why moon bump? Where, s term from..? This forum takes on new direction when Polly posts.??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And meanwhile https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/16/european-commission-hits-eu-governments-hoarding-unused-covid/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr What on earth is going on?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/16/merkels-government-war-astrazeneca-disaster-eu-vaccine-chaos/ Italy claiming decision to postpone AZ vaccine was political rather than medical. Well there's a shock.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG Think you are out by a similar factor over Laura K as Polly is with Meghan.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But that's not "gaslighting" OG. She'd be convincing us that Govt are bonkers or that BJ and Hancock belong in mental institutions, which might be case but don't think she is trying to convince anybody of it. Besides, I don't believe what you are claiming. She has probably been most ardent...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Must be the hard pad and distemper one.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    To be fair OG Laura was one of few who put Johnson and Hancock on spot during briefings early on. She was very critical of Govt over PPE, lockdown and their general behaviour. Probably a positive from vaccine roll out has been some previously critical have become more generous in their...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was amazed at figures from our heat pump. Thought all claims were exaggerations, but nope... Roughly we averaged 3.5 kW out for every Kw used... Air sourced as well.. Didn't have room for ground sourced. Really impressed but very expensive..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Saw some comments other day from EU that UK hadnt/wasn't supporting vaccines out of UK as much as it should. (There is some argument between Raab and his EU counter part) Found this graph if fact4u. EU figure is contribution from 27 nations.??? I believe UK is largest contributor to Covax...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/25/acceptance-problem-as-most-oxford-covid-jabs-delivered-to-eu-not-yet-used I, m afraid it isn't stocks preventing roll out in EU its take up. Figures for France in another report say only 273,000 out of 2 million supplied have been used. There is no...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Brilliant. Love it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Couldn't agree more. My best days on motorbike were without doubt exploring Pyrenes on a liitle 125 Enduro. Was heaven. Bike made you take your time, examine surroundings and not put yourself in danger doing it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56360646 Really makes you wonder what's going on? 37 cases out of 17 million jabs with as many, if not more, cases in population at large with not a shred of evidencefor a link between clots and vaccine.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just been watching Covid in Italy on news. Looking terrible. And they, ve suspended vaccine.. Utter madness.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well its looking as though they are trying to get more of the Russian vaccine... I, d thought there were some rumours that that was hacked from Oxford anyway, but who knows what's going on. This pandemic has shown the frailty in so many aspects of our Governments. All of them.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I really think these countries suspending roll out are making a massive mistake. Seems there has been a concerted effort to destroy confidence in AZ and going on response of many Dutch on TV tonight it has worked well... But to what end? Putting their faith in the Russian vaccine?? I really do...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know area quite well. Go to Malton often and have relatives in Pocklington/ Bishop Wilton. Beautiful part of world and quieter than Derbyshire/Peaks.. Enjoy it OG...