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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We, ve had expert advice for nearly 2 weeks. Who, EMA, JCVI and Mhra have said all along keep vaccinating. I, m not sure why when EMA reannounce vaccine is safe they are suddenly listened to. What is different to yesterday? They have looked again at same data and come to same conclusion. What's...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-view-on-europe-and-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-protection-racket-thhh065kq Rather inflammatory for Times. Suppose this is rubbish too, it's not buying into our great Fatherland, the EU.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's nothing to do with finding it agreeable it's how it is. Perhaps, having looked at figures mentioned and uncertainty about a link, and fact figures from USA say Pfizer have experienced same sort of thing perhaps you could explain why roll out has been stopped, but only in EU countries?? What...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This chap has summed up the situation regarding relative risk of delaying/not delaying vaccine. Vaccinated you risk 5 people per million. (even if link proven) Unvaccinated you risk 1000..(and that is in 40 olds) Taking these figures into account why didn't they continue vaccinating and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We, ll send OG then. They, d soon surrender.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You could see what with tho... Not what you want on way to an Oyster and Champagne breakfast. Those lorry drivers must have some stamina.. Don't know how they do all that work....and then a bit of driving. Its keeping that entire region in cash. At Figures they started construction of what...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that the vaccines or plastic chairs? Both I suppose. Notice which aspects stood out for you? I, d forgotten my rant about prostitutes having to wear high viz jackets sitting within 5 metres of road.. Makes a wonderful site when driving for brekky. Young ladies nothing on except high viz...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's my god given right to rant. Who gave you permission? Being serious tho flecc, a delay is a delay, yep a week or so but this could happen every week on this weak evidence and its not just about delay, its about the loss of confidence in vaccines generally and AZ specifically. French, Dutch...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, m reading and involved so it's relevant to me anyhow. Nev was talking sense. Odd OG agrees with Nev but disagrees with me and JHC? Well not odd for OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agreed. Seems we are frothing at mouth for stating obvious. Ironically they all say yes we would have vaccine and not prevent others from having one but justify a system that does just that. And we are the mentally ill ones. Amazing. I, ll have anyone a bet that tomorrow EMA announce...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I notice, even through my foam, that you didn't answer the questions. Is there sufficient evidence to stop you going for a vaccine and would you prevent others going? Danudl If you don't believe the figures there ain't any point in banning or using the vaccine. Of course the figures could be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, no, no. It's you refusing to see reality. Repeating my question, it's got buried. Its a serious, relevant and pertinent question and I, d like all the folk supporting EU wide delay to think about it and answer honestly. If you had an AZ vaccine booked for this afternoon would you go? And...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Italians think exactly same.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It isn't highest death toll in Europe. Belgium, Czechia and Slovenia are all higher than UK now.. With way things are looking France/Italy /Montenegro /Spain likely to go above us. Chttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries List organised in order of World's worst death...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The truth as JHC stated above is 37 cases, with no proven link, out of 17 million administered of AZ, with almost identical occurrence in Pfizer and actually less cases than would be expected out of 17 million people chosen at random. The truth is there for all to see, you simply don't want to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why tho, when EMA and their own health officials are against it. Does beg question, yet again, what is point of EMA. Utterly pointless, a totally redundant level of bureaucracy. They exist to exist. Powerless and will blame individual countries for being ignored. Explain their function flecc?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's exactly what I was going to say. Beat me to it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Their own Health officials are saying same as EMA. Its only political ministers arguing for killing more people. (posted link yesterday about Italian Health officials wanting to ignore govt)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Their experts tho flec(EMA) are giving AZ vaccine a clean bill of health. Yes, AZ did make initial errors in dosage and trial participant selection but that has nothing to do with this. I, d totally agree with you if EMA had advised caution. They have not, never did over this issue. They have...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/eu-cutting-nose-spite-face-astrazeneca-jab/ I, m only offering an explanation when there is no justification perhaps you could offer one. If you examine death figures, medical problems etc of vaccine there are many many examples with worse stats than for...