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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Reply for Oyster's previous post. I, ve just read similar argument in Guardian. Basically even if the current problem cases were attributed to the vaccine it produces a clot risk of 0.007 per thousand. The Pill is accepted as a perfectly viable worthwhile risk and has a clot risk of 0.6 per...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-common-have-blood-clots-been-after-the-astrazeneca-jab-and-should-we-be-worried-12246472 ??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Brilliant OG. Well done. Looks like near Sledmere???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-germany-suspends-oxford-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-amid-blood-clot-concerns-12246936 ???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, m lost now... I didn't deny that..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    She winds me up. Miss goody 2 shoes and so false.. Her and Jason Mohhamad on Saturday morning, tick boxing BBC's diversity goals..can't have employed either on merit. And, while I, m having a moan.. Have you noticed the ethnic choices for adverts these days. Every advert has to have its quota of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I felt terrible yesterday after sailing. Was that tired couldn't chew because my jaw muscles were aching that much. Think it's more likely my AF and not eating properly than vaccine tho..but who knows.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Or Kate Buckley..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And in mean time confidence is destroyed in vaccine, many folk are disappointed ( I believe as you were) and a slow roll out is slowed further with no gains whatsoever and the entire medical world still all saying same thing"no link". Don't get me wrong Danidl, had there been a link, without...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My apologies, I, d thought you were agreeing with countries suspending vaccine roll out.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There have been no deaths world wide owing to blood clots with a proven link to vaccine. Obviously there have been blood clot deaths, heart attacks and strokes are effectively blood clots. But at the moment there is no link between any blood clots and vaccines, so there have been no deaths owing...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well ignore them Woosh, don't have vaccine. Free world, nobody making you. I, ll be having my second jab ASAP tho.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oxford-professor-reassures-public-astrazeneca-23722122 I never said anything derogatory about EMA at all. Said they were slow authorising vaccine, and that generally EU had performed poorly with roll out.??? As a body don't think there is anything to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No deaths with clots.. So Sarah Jarvis insisted. I don't think it is an abundance of caution at all. Every "expert" from all medical side are saying same. Not related. Which ministers have decided to go against WHO, EMA, Mhra and their own medical teams and why. (Irish doctor was backing up...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree Danidl, it should not be happening. Not sure why you apologised, we are actually saying same thing.. Governments postponing or whatever you decide to call it, is a mistake and made for wrong reasons. Doctor on radio this am actually said there is no mechanism to link vaccine with blood...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I said some on here search for negative aspects. Some do. Fact. That's all I said, wasn't even aimed at you. It was a general true statement. You and 2 or 3 others thrive on anything negative. Fact. I, ve put you back on ignore. Quite pointless but might work one day. Had a chat with mods other...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG you are searching for negative aspects. It's not an argument, it's a fact. And I said some have different attitudes to vaccine than others, that's not critical. You and Flecc do have different attitudes towards it than most. So what? You, as normal, just want to argue, whether I ignore you...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Radio 2 just had good talk about vaccine. Sarah Jarvis talking sense as usual. Vaccine is safe. Incidence of clots ( and bleeding) are identical in the 10 million of AZ recipients and the 10 million Pfizer and those of population at large. Phone her up OG, they are taking calls. Tell her your...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Still starting arguments OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Seems some on here want to search and latch on to whatever negative aspects about vaccine they can find. Had a report sent from Midi Pyrenes magazine,which sums it up quite well. I,ve attached it, can't send link. It's a bit mixed but general points 334 million vaccines World wide, . 30...