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I plan on getting a golden egg on this one!!

As an industry we are looking for best practice from our retailers and at least honestly about the products use. Adding a dongle to an Ebike means it is no longer legally classed as a bicycle and no longer CE certified, so can't be sold by a responsible seller and can't be used by a responsible...

also for anyone riding a dongled bike.... check with any lawyer what would happen should you be involved in an accident riding it, even if it's not your fault. You won't stand a chance against any legal term and should it be a serious accident - check who'll pay your mortgage for you, or cover...

I think that's optimistic... and even then you won't be able to use those bikes offroad at all, so all the points of our letter and the campaign just being started by the unhappy Scott and Haibike dealers is still valid, and will continue to be even if sPedelecs become legally to use in the UK.

No, of course that's not the exact wording, lol. That was me typing on a forum before I'd even had a coffee. This is the official wording from the KTM website, but as I'm sure you'll appreciate its a pretty bad translation from German, but you can see what they, and every brand says. "There...

I'd love to be able to agree with you... however Warranty can be voided on the whole bike if its used in a manor it wasn't designed for. The bike wasn't built / specced by the brand to be an sPedelec, so by adding a dongle you will void the warranty on the whole bike, because its being used in...

That's the general terms and conditions for our website, we don't sell bikes to the public so don't have a single thing on there. But we should, so we will get something added in the next few days.

Please private message me, I know some guys at lapierre. If your friends doesn't get a reply from Ebike shop let me know. He doesn't have a warranty with bosch, so Ebike shop will have to buy him a new motor if his fails... Which they can do.

Ask him to ask Ebike shop if his bike is covered under trading standards law. Because it's no longer ce certified and see what he says. But yes Ebike shop are liable for a lot of things!!

Using your analogy ... As said before, we've been trying quietly for years... Haibike aren't listening to a gentle bit of persuasion, so we've had to go public, because if we don't we could loose the restaurant anyway.

I would love to hope you're correct, but I'm afraid with the information and conversations I have access to, I'm sorry to say that your optimism that things can stay underground is misplaced. Unless we do something, and by that I mean educate people of the negative impacts of selling and buying...

Its basically point 2 on this map, beautiful part of the world.

Just to give an example to our case, and why I care. This Sunday I went for a ride with my wife around the beautiful Derwent and Ladybower valleys in the Peak District. The road / trails are closed to motor vehicles, so families and cyclist are free to enjoy the views and get some fresh air...

Trex.... its not about it being competitive sport. no one is suggest people are using these to race. People do care, everyone I spoke to at the NEC was shocked that the dealer who sold them the bike hadn't informed them that they couldn't use it offroad. Its this ignorance we're trying to...

It also features on SingleTrack World over the weekend. Looks like nearly 12,000 people have read the article already. http://singletrackworld.com/2015/10/ebikes-could-be-banned-says-uk-ebike-distributor/

Not true... you just need a street legal 250w eBike with the 250w nominal power, but higher peaks to help you cope with the hills. You don't need to break the law, you just need a better bike. ie, the new Bosch CX drive, is 250w nominal, but the peak (if you're spinning at about 80 rpm) is...

You might like to think they do... having spent 3 days talking to the public at the NEC Cycle Show in September, I can assure you that the VAST majority of people who ride eBikes don't understand the legalities. As has been shown even on here, where most readers are more educated about the law...

Again... Missing the point I'm afraid. The problem isn't the speed, or any potential increase in danger or anything like that. The problem is they are not legally allowed to be used. So until the law is changed anyone using them illegally at these venues or events in jeopardising future access...

Its also worth noting, that even with the 15.5mph cut off, on a relatively straight commute... I'm faster on a legal eBike than I am on my road racing bike. There is a thread here, that you might not have seen Job100...

Selling an S-Class bike is of no risk to you David, its just like any motorbike shop selling a motorcross bike. They can't be used anywhere apart from private land, but they are sold every day with no issue for the retailers. The only issue is most MX customers won't use their bike on the...