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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well done to the French security forces as this headline suggests the hunt for the murderous gunman has ended: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46561574 Tom
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Further to my post #41496, this serves to demonstrate my point about the BBC and their tory propaganda, both blatant and subliminal, designed to bend and shape the general public's opinion as tory central office dictates...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's nice to see the system works and good sense has prevailed. Well done the ECJ! Tom
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is a sign of the times, thanks to the likes of Farage and the other neo-nazis stirring up the feelings of hatred for foreign people through blaming them for everything from stealing jobs to being benefit cheats and moslem extremist sleepers. Remember what happened to Jo Cox MP! Her brutal...
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is blatant propaganda, designed to engender the notion in the minds of the public that a 'no deal' 'Brexit is to be feared whereas little Miss Muffet's Mrs May's so-called 'Chequers deal' is a nice, easy and gentle passage into Britain's isolation from our biggest market, condemning us to a...
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We have people here making a case (a case that should need no explaining!) for remaining in the EU while nobody, absolutely nobody, has made any case whatsoever for 'Brexit'. The opposition here to 'Remain' is purely destructive trolling which would not be tolerated on other websites. Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If ever an example were needed, this demonstrates perfectly that care in the community just isn't working! Tom
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Almost certainly. It won't be quick and will probably be a long, lingering demise, littered with redundancies, bankruptcies, thousands of lease and contract hire cars being returned and prices steadily rising with some goods becoming difficult to source. Perhaps the 'crashing out' model is...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Anna Soubry also makes a great case on that website for returning the matter to the people now that everyone can see what 'Brexit' amounts to. Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If anyone would like to hear what Michael Heseltine has to say now about 'Brexit', fire up this link in your browser and it will lead immediately to Heseltine's video clip. I don't want to include the FB clip directly on here as it might cause problems for some forum users. Just copy and paste...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Based on recent events, these are my thoughts this morning: …..and just a reminder of what 'Brexit' voters look like: I missed this one yesterday but it sums up very well why May must be the worst British PM in history: Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I used to wonder where the creators of 'The Adams Family' and 'The Munsters' got their ideas from. All is now clear. Tom
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My thoughts on seeing this collection of self-serving, millionaires and multi-millionaires went straight to the opinion I share with the father of the NHS: 'What is Toryism but organised spivvery? … No amount of cajolery can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party … So...
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Remind me; which part of the UK generates the most money? When you do some research and discover that London And the SE brings in more revenue than any other region and possibly the rest of the country put together, perhaps you will realise that investment there is essential to the whole of...
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Someone has summarised the possibilities of the vote on May's leadership like this: Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Love this from David Schneider: Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That seems entirely clear to me 'flecc' and is, in fact, the major reason why I spent the largest part of my working life in and around the capital. Now, I have always known where Watford is but it seems that the stories are true and there really is somewhere north of Watford. Perhaps I should...
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Does anyone know what additional benefit to her 'deal' Theresa May achieved by making her desperate, last gasp whistle-stop expedition to mainland Europe and to Dublin ? I ask because if there is no amendment to the negotiated (if that's the right word) 'deal' she subscribed to, why don't the...
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That neatly sidesteps or overlooks the fact that if I wish to watch my television, I am obliged to pay for a TV licence, even if I never watch any BBC channels. It may well be the case that my obliga(tory) licence fee collected by the government becomes the BBC's money in turn but I find it...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Which begs the question, 'Why are the BBC wasting taxpayers' money on a known to be unreliable poll?' The only answer is that it's just another piece of propaganda, conditioning both MPs and public alike that May is going to win the vote of confidence issue. In the case of tory MPs, it's going...