Stupidity of other road users

Mandy

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BTW, if women keep putting forward the notion they're so good at multitasking, how come they can't have sex when they've got a headache?
Oh dear Haku, is sex a task in your book? lol ;)

I'm pinching that line, you stand-up comedian you!
I wouldn't Danny K, since when did a headache become a task :confused:

It's a bit like saying a guy could play football with a broken leg? Don't think so :D
 

Footie

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Way of subject - but I didn't start it :p

Haku posted:

.... BTW, if women keep putting forward the notion they're so good at multitasking, how come they can't have sex when they've got a headache? ....

According to the web site below (and my wife) not true.
Perhaps it can by counted as one of the multitasks :D

8. “Is 'not tonight, I've got a headache' a valid excuse for not having sex?”
No. In fact, sex can cure a headache faster than Nurofen. This is because of the dopamine produced by the body during sex. Christophe Maquestiaux, a neuroscience expert based at the California Institute of Technology, explains, “Scientists have determined that, at its maximum, the pain relief offered by dopamine release is as potent as a high dose of morphine, making you feel better and letting you forget your worries as long as the stimulus is present.” Dopamine is the chemical that floods the brain when cocaine is taken, deadening pain. So if you've got a headache, you know what to do...

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Mandy

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Way of subject - but I didn't start it :p

Haku posted:

.... BTW, if women keep putting forward the notion they're so good at multitasking, how come they can't have sex when they've got a headache? ....

According to the web site below (and my wife) not true.
Perhaps it can by counted as one of the multitasks :D

8. “Is 'not tonight, I've got a headache' a valid excuse for not having sex?”
No. In fact, sex can cure a headache faster than Nurofen. This is because of the dopamine produced by the body during sex. Christophe Maquestiaux, a neuroscience expert based at the California Institute of Technology, explains, “Scientists have determined that, at its maximum, the pain relief offered by dopamine release is as potent as a high dose of morphine, making you feel better and letting you forget your worries as long as the stimulus is present.” Dopamine is the chemical that floods the brain when cocaine is taken, deadening pain. So if you've got a headache, you know what to do...
Hi Footie, LOL! Now this is funny LOL

You are probably right in almost all of what you say apart from the headache being a task I think, headache is a pain not a task :confused:

However, I think the headache would become a task if it were faked and therefore it would become a big old task in itself in order to convince or pretend to have a headache just to go to sleep. :D
 

Sophies Dad

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Idiot boy racers...

Got soaked tonight coming home from work when a car of idiot lads drove past at about 60 mph on abuilt up road and chucked a water bomb at me at point blank range... honestly thought they'd clipped me with their mirror, the impact it had...
luckily i didn't come of balance or anything but my phone, which i wear in a small holder on my belt got soaked and is now dead!
of course, because they were going so fast, by the time i recovered from the shock and realised it was only a water bomb, they were out of view to get their details...
yeah, nobody got hurt, but my phone is now useless and i had to ride home wetter than i get in torrential rain!
muppets!:mad:
 

Footie

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Got soaked tonight coming home from work when a car of idiot lads drove past at about 60 mph on abuilt up road and chucked a water bomb at me at point blank range... honestly thought they'd clipped me with their mirror, the impact it had...
luckily i didn't come of balance or anything but my phone, which i wear in a small holder on my belt got soaked and is now dead!
of course, because they were going so fast, by the time i recovered from the shock and realised it was only a water bomb, they were out of view to get their details...
yeah, nobody got hurt, but my phone is now useless and i had to ride home wetter than i get in torrential rain!
muppets!:mad:
Even though it was just your phone that got damaged it's a serious incident, much more than any reported here so far. A premeditated attack I would call it and worth reporting to the Police. Their next victim my not be so lucky, but if the Police are alerted to their dangerous tricks they will be for the high jump if a serious injury occurs to someone else.

Were it me I would report it to the Police without hesitation.

The Police none-emergency number is 08452 777444 (it's a national number).
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Sophies Dad

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Thanks for that mate... things like this it's hard to judge if you're maybe being a bit too wussy... you know... anyway, reported it to my local police non-urgent line and they pretty much confirmed they couldn't help much without a reg plate but my evidence might help to reinforce anyone elses story who reports them with a better idea of who they are.

The upside is... i can now memorise a cars number with just moments glance (practised the rest of the way home)

please let them try it again tomoro! i'll 'ave 'em!
 

Footie

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Unfortunately, this sort of thing can sometimes escalate so it’s best to try and nip it in the bud. It’s all a big joke until someone gets hurt or they start pissing into the water pistols and water bombs :eek:

Of course if they start doing that you'll have DNA evidence :cool:
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Mandy

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Hi Sophies Dad
Am sorry to hear about your problem with those idiots :mad:
Kids of today seem to get some kind of kick out of making others lives a misery. Well I am sure it won't be the first they have done this or the last and hope they get there come uppance the next time they stike and just hope they don't cause a major accident :(

With regards to your phone:
Have you taken it apart? Battery, sim etc.

I lost one of my phone's one Christmas Eve a few years back and it laid out in the rain all night! My other half found it the next morning and it was taken apart to dry out and it was fine after a few hours in front of the fire.

Another I dropped down the loo :D and I did the same thing and that survived also. However I think speed is of the essence in these situations if possible.

However, my Ipod dropped out of my pocket into a bowl of soapy water last week when cleaning and sadly it did not survive. However you can't get the damn thing apart in a hurry or turn the darn thing off, shorted the battery! damn Apple!!!

They say placing a phone or similar item when wet into a container of rice is good for drying out.

Regards

Mandy
 

Danny-K

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... things like this it's hard to judge if you're maybe being a bit too wussy...
- No, you're not; you are the victim of an assault.

Saw a TV consumer programme where they said tha if someone shouts at you in a threatening and intimidating manner it's legally classed as an assault. Particularly if you believe the person is about to physically hurt you even if they don't, it doesn't matter, you thought you were in danger, so it's an assault perpetrated against you.

If someone makes as if to raise their arm as if handing out a backhander to you - it's an assault.

In fact anyone intimidating you by shouting the odds in your face - it's an assault.

Someone grabbing the lapels of your jacket to impose their will on you - it's an assault.

If you are then subsequently physically struck or harmed in any way, then it is not an assault - it's classed as 'assault and battery'.

Assault is where you are not physically harmed or touched whereas when someone strikes you, pushes you, punches you, it is Assault and Battery.

In other words if like Sophie's dad you feel that, 'things like this it's hard to judge' then take a look at this quote:

"Assault. And battery. Two separate offenses against the person that when used in one expression may be defined as any unlawful and unpermitted touching of another. Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact. The act consists of a threat of harm accompanied by an apparent, present ability to carry out the threat. Battery is a harmful or offensive touching of another.

The main distinction between the two offenses is the existence or nonexistence of a touching or contact. While contact is an essential element of battery, there must be an absence of contact for assault. Sometimes assault is defined loosely to include battery".

Many of us have had water squirted at us or aggressive shouts from passing vehicles designed to cause us distress whilst out cycling. Let's all be clear about this: if it happens to you, report to the police that you have been assaulted. Think, 'assault', and it'll help dissuade you from downgrading or treating it as 'being a bit wussy'.

(Been a bit of a jailhouse lawyer here, so if anyone works in the police force, or legal profession and has further knowledge of the above, please feel free to amend, correct or qualify my post).
 

Haku

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Oh dear Haku, is sex a task in your book? lol ;)
Yes, didn't you know? I'm a sex object.

Everytime I ask a woman for sex, they object :D


Got soaked tonight coming home from work when a car of idiot lads drove past at about 60 mph on abuilt up road and chucked a water bomb at me at point blank range...
Oh that sucks, last year late one Friday night I was driving to Tesco and some muppet leaned out of the back window of a car coming the other way and threw the remainder of their (most probably post-alcoholic) take out meal at my car, luckily they hit the side and had to clean it up when I got to the supermaket, if it had hit the windscreen I might have been in serious trouble because the mayonnaise may have impaired my view.
 

Sophies Dad

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Thanks for the support everyone...

And thanks for the phone advice... unfortunately, by the time I got to strip the phone out, the water had gotten into it. Totally dead.

Its the hardline from now on with these things, anything shouted out of a car window or other form of behaviour is getting reported. Simple as that.
From now on I am a 'zero tolerance cyclist' :p
 

Mandy

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Thanks for the support everyone...

And thanks for the phone advice... unfortunately, by the time I got to strip the phone out, the water had gotten into it. Totally dead.

Its the hardline from now on with these things, anything shouted out of a car window or other form of behaviour is getting reported. Simple as that.
From now on I am a 'zero tolerance cyclist' :p
Good for you!!

A shame about your phone though :(

Well I had a really bad run in with a lorry driver on my way home from work at about 8.45pm last year around October time on my PowaByke.
I was travelling down a road with a steep kirb seperating the lanes, so no room for overtaking and a very large lorry was behind me with his engine spluttering and I could tell he was impatient so I pedalled harder.
Well the steep kirb only ran for around 200 yards and when I reached the end of this he circled around me on a bend and almost crushed me into the kerb with his rear end!
I quickly alighted the pavement with bike and shouted summit like idiot, although it actually scared me and I just cared about getting out of trouble.
Anyway, some 150 yards further down the road this idiot had pulled into his destination of some depot or other and is standing in the road in my way waving his arms around!!
I stupidly stopped, all 5ft 2 and 8 stone of me, lol!
This man (in his mid 60's I guess) demanded that I should not be on the road and that I should have been on the cycle path the other side of the road.
I pointed out quite politely at first that the raised kirb would have made this impossible where I joined the road and also said I was just as entitled to be on the road as he was and with that he then proceeded to shout and swear slamming his fist into his open palm. How dare he!! I then I pointed out that he was an unsafe lorry driver and shouldn't be on the road especially bearing in mind his destination being only a short distance from behind me and he should have had more patience and maybe he should go re-take his test because he almost crushed me!!
He then lurched at me and tried to kick my bike punching his hand some more and swore and shouted! I had remained quite calm throughout but with that I launched back with a swear word or two and had to manouvre around him to make my getaway as I was still on my bike. I shook all the way home and was so angry I didn't take down his number plate.

I had done absolutely nothing wrong and bearing in mind the lateness of the hour the road in question was relatively quiet and dark. I still shudder when I think of it :eek:

I am a placid person in general although not a mouse :D and do not like confrontation in any physical or verbal form, but I refuse to be bullied by some muppets out there on the road or off and will stand my ground when necessary. Thankfully I have not been in a similar situation since and find my journey's mostly pleasurable.

I am sorry about the essay but needed to get it off my chest I guess and that is why I dislike Lorry Drivers, lol!!! Although I have to say I have come across quite a few courteous one's lol

Regards and safe problem free cycling to all
 

Sophies Dad

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I know what you mean... in the heat of the moment you forget what you should be doing... I got pretty annoyed with myself for not staying composed enough to take their number...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing... :rolleyes:
 

Mandy

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I know what you mean... in the heat of the moment you forget what you should be doing... I got pretty annoyed with myself for not staying composed enough to take their number...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing... :rolleyes:
It annoys me why people have to do this sort of thing and why?!

Completely off the road topic, lol!! I was sitting in my front room one weekend 2 weeks ago enjoying a bit of Tv and heard some kids outside laughing and having fun and didn't think anything of it.
However, I have a large old privet hedge about 3 ft wide and 5 ft tall around my front garden which has been lovingly cared for and kept very neat.
All of the houses around here were built during the 1st world war for the Royal Air Craft Establishment employess or air force at that time.
All the houses had privet hedges which have gradually been replaced by fencing and along with the ancient apple trees in my garden I love my old hedge, lol!

I don't know what made me go out and have a look at what they were doing just that I heard one say someone is coming and that was before I opened my front door. Well they had delved in my hedge and pulled branches out leaving large unsightly holes all across the front! I shouted to them but they had gone.
I had never had any words or had any dealings with the boys previously so it wasn't done out of mallace but they knew they had done wrong but why did they do it?

I have lived in my house for 28 years, brought my children up here and have always loved the area but everything seems to be going down hill recently. Nearlly all are privately owned with a few housing association dotted around and the only thing I can honestly think of is that kids nowadays aren't taught right from wrong. In fact kids have too much nowadays and lack appreciation. I was a single parent following my divorce and I am very proud of my two, now 28 and 30 and they are my best friends and have done very well. They would never have behaved like this so what is going wrong?? It makes me cross :mad:

I probably sound like a moany old woman which I am not, lol! I am 49, have a mostly young outlook and enjoy a laugh with young and old and have a lot of time for youngsters so why me? Why my hedge!! :eek:

Very long rant again over, but does anyone else feel this way or are we just getting old :D

Regards
 

Footie

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It’s the sickening attitude of today’s society - ‘look after number one and to hell with everyone else’.

You ask ‘Why your hedge?’.

‘Why?’ - It’s the same sort of question I ask when kids kick a sea gull to death in the playground – because they can.

We need the people of this world to wake up and realise that society only works if everyone works at it (none of this lone wolf ****). People need to re-learn to work together – if not it will all fall apart.
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Mandy

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It’s the sickening attitude of today’s society - ‘look after number one and to hell with everyone else’.

You ask ‘Why your hedge?’.

‘Why?’ - It’s the same sort of question I ask when kids kick a sea gull to death in the playground – because they can.

We need the people of this world to wake up and realise that society only works if everyone works at it (none of this lone wolf ****). People need to re-learn to work together – if not it will all fall apart.
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I agree in some ways but why on earth has it come down to this?
I too have seen a similar incident with ducks, kids catapulting them with there dad encouraging them! I did intervene and frightened the ducks away as thought this was a senseless cruel act and got abuse from the dad! I was unable to stand by and watch it happen when others did. I didn't shout swear or scold but just frightened and shooed them away. I guess I was spoiling their "fun" shame on me.
I am glad that I was born when I was with lovely but strict parents and glad my two have turned out so well. I wouldn't want to be born now into the society we live in, simple as that.

My son was mugged just 200 yards from my door by two youths last year and had his mobile stolen and was punched and kicked because he put up a struggle to stop them pinching his phone. The abuse was stopped by an eldery man coming out of his house to intervene. The police were at my house for hours and my son knew there first names and could identify their faces as they used our local pub.
We thought it was a cut and shut case? But do you know what?!! the police dropped it because of insufficient evidence!!! and then had the audacity to send my Dan a questionare of how he felt they dealt with the case!!! I was mortified!! They were never brought to justice but the phone was useless as my son had both the handset and the sim totally locked together with a tracker and it was never used as far as we could see?

I can't fathom the menatlility of it all regardless of sticking together and being one society?
What drives some people do do these things? It just really makes me sick :mad:
 

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Engage!

The keyword in all teenage behavior is "destroy".

If anybody can find an explanation for the need of teenagers to destroy, then we might just find a way to remedy the problem.

This need to destroy is now extending to destroying each others lives. They have started KILLING each other.

When I think back about my own youth, I now realise that I was not allowed to enter fully into the "adult" world until I had finished my apprenticeship. The tradesman under which I worked, continued the adult presence in my life during my work hours, my own father taking over whilst I was at home.

Even when my apprenticeship finished, that tradesman continued to be a good and trusted friend for many years until he passed away. This begs the question, are adults withdrawing their presence in their childrens lives far too early. Just because a fifteen year old THINKS he knows everything, should parents accept this and then leave the youngster to find out he most certainly does NOT know everything.

It appears that some companies now assign a "mentor" to young employees, perhaps they provide the same adult guidance to a youngster as the tradesman gave me, all the way into my late teen years and finally, into adulthood.

If you haven't gone to sleep already, here's a bit more. A young child presented with a toy that fails to work in the way expected, may very well, because of frustration, destroy it. In the absence of strong adult guidance this same child will carry this destructiveness into his adult life.

Well, I've re-read this before posting, and it looks like a load of eyewash, perhaps somebody can see the point I'm trying to make, if not, then just write it off as another rant.

'night all

Bob
 

Danny-K

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It’s the sickening attitude of today’s society - ‘look after number one and to hell with everyone else’.

You ask ‘Why your hedge?’.

‘Why?’ - It’s the same sort of question I ask when kids kick a sea gull to death in the playground – because they can.

We need the people of this world to wake up and realise that society only works if everyone works at it (none of this lone wolf ****). People need to re-learn to work together – if not it will all fall apart.
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Hmmm, I'm inclined to believe it's the way we've all changed with greater awareness since Tony Blair jumped the gun and had this country needlessly rush into the Human Rights Act without any thought of the way it's well meaning objectives can be twisted by those with ill intent. That means today, any school teacher placing a hand on a disruptive pupil's shoulder or a hint of physical disciplinary restraint often results in that teacher a) facing criminal charges and b) Suspension from their job. Same goes for parents, if someone takes a dislike to the way you manage your children in public.

You can guess what that does to their authority if they inadvertently make a mistake. The kids can literally blackmail the teacher with threats of reporting them to the authorities.

The young tearaways know that teachers, adults, in fact anyone who tries to instill a social cohesiveness by way of reprimanding youngsters involved in anti-social activities, that they can end up unintentionally in serious trouble with the police. It's inevitable the young tearaways exploit this facet of the law to maximum effect.

When I 'were a lad', you were careful not to be too cheeky to adults, less you suffered some form of admonishment, ticking off etc., Today's tearaways have no fear whatsoever of being pulled into line, and often are quick to embarrass any adult who does try to admonish the hedge vandals and car vandals by issuing 'threats'. That's if you're lucky - you may have a knife pulled on you; they know they'll never face imprisonment. Remember the school headmistress who went out with an empty airgun from her home as she was at her wits end with the vandals repeatedly damaging both her propery and car? Sacked from her job. The woman was literally driven insane. The vandals by the way, (and so well-known to the local police that they were on first name terms), faced no prosecution but received apologies instead. (Apparantly they weren't the ones responsible THAT night, only on previous occasions, LOL). How are they to learn that their actions were unacceptable also?

In fact, so fearful of being accidentally being seen in the wrong, a recent report said more Britons than at any other time in our history were more likely to NOT get involved if they saw someone being attacked, and instead walk on by. And social commentators wonder why it's reached this state of affairs. Just look to The Human Rights Act - it all got out of hand from there on in.
 

flecc

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While I fully agree on some of the effects of the Human Rights Act, that was only the culmination of an ongoing process which started in the Thatcher era with the "everyone for themselves" greed culture, personal satisfaction the prime objective.

The ongoing paedophile witchhunt which started a little later has also had many undesirable side effects, scaring adults away from youth work, dividing the generations and giving the youngsters of any age the impression of being literally untouchable. I think we've got to a very sad stage when a young father tells me he dare not bath his baby because of the possible implications, and taking photographs in public is fraught with risks.

The Human Rights legislation later sealed these positions in stone, and I struggle to see any way out of the mess we've made now, since undoing legislations will not undo the effects they've had on the population.

On the basis that over 80% of the all the trouble is caused by less than 20% of the population, a draconian crackdown is possible, but we've long been in an age when that troublesome strata of the population is the one the politicians seem to do the most for with state charity.
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