No - what is happening is that an army of Justin Rowlats and their followers are running around the world looking for bad weather events and plastering them across 24 hour news channels as a cheap substitute for real news. They really like the way useful fools on social media amplify their hysteria.
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Global warming causing fire????
"Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[9]: 386–387 The fires covered five million hectares, around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria. Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts were badly hit, and around twelve lives were recorded lost, along with one million sheep and thousands of cattle.[16]
New arrivals from the wetter climes of Britain and Ireland learned painful lessons in fire management and the European farmers slowly began to adapt – growing green crops around their haystacks and burning fire breaks around their pastures, and becoming cautious about burn offs of wheatfield stubble and ringbarked trees.[9]: 387 But major fire events persisted, including South Gippsland's 1898 Red Tuesday bushfires that burned 260,000 hectares (640,000 acres) and claimed twelve lives and more than 2,000 buildings.[16]"
Must have been going on a long time.
"Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[9]: 386–387 The fires covered five million hectares, around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria. Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts were badly hit, and around twelve lives were recorded lost, along with one million sheep and thousands of cattle.[16]
New arrivals from the wetter climes of Britain and Ireland learned painful lessons in fire management and the European farmers slowly began to adapt – growing green crops around their haystacks and burning fire breaks around their pastures, and becoming cautious about burn offs of wheatfield stubble and ringbarked trees.[9]: 387 But major fire events persisted, including South Gippsland's 1898 Red Tuesday bushfires that burned 260,000 hectares (640,000 acres) and claimed twelve lives and more than 2,000 buildings.[16]"
Must have been going on a long time.
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Records going back to 2 centuries ago are broken one after another and you just dismiss them? What have you done with your scientific education?
When do random events become a trend then become an evidence?
Fires in california happen every year, the records that are broken this time is the number of people evacuated, and the amount of insurance claims. 150 billions is the current estimate and the fires are still raging.
So, according to AR6, Earth’s average temperature in the last decade (2011-2020) was 1.09℃ warmer than pre-industrial times (defined as 1850-1900)
IPCC have provided a table detailing the 20 year period when we are likely, on average, to exceed set warming levels for different emissions scenarios (SSP1-2.6 is the lowest, and I would suggest that we are now not likely to follow that scenario). If we wanted to specify a year when the trend will hit that warming level we could take the mid point of that 20 year range
So, the best estimate of hitting 1.5 degrees warming will be the early 2030s
California is an arid area. It has always been fire prone. The issue is land management and more development in fire prone areas. Insurance claims rising is no surprise is it, if you think about it. If you live in a dry land area and do not control the underbrush and you build your homes out of wood, don't be surprised if they burn down when a fire starts. As for the ignition event, an individual was seen starting one of these blazes deliberately and he has been arrested. Whatever caused the others to start I have no idea.
Did you see my post above about the nineteenth century fires in Australia?
Even before that, Captain Cook called Australia, "a continent of smoke" after exploring the east coast in 1770. He noted that he saw smoke during the day and fires at night wherever he went.
Five years ago when there was a particularly bad fire season in Victoria people like you were howling about global warming causing massive fires. The real reason was that environmental laws had prevented controlled burning as has been practised by the aborigines for forty thousand years and dead material and weeds had proliferated, died and dried creating a massive un-burned fuel source. The resulting fires did a lot of damage. The poor management ws the problem, not a notional rise in global mean temperature.
FACT: the mean global temperature is now 15C.
In pre-industrial times the mean global temperature was 14C.
The rise in carbon dioxide levels from 240 parts per million of atmosphere (1 molecule in 4066 of the atmosphere) to 417 parts per million (1 molecule of carbon dioxide in 2398 of the atmosphere ) is responsible for this rise of 1 degree c.
At one molecule in every 2398 molecules of atmosphere, co2 is an essential life giving, and wonderful thing for us. It allows us to grow more food and produces more plant growth and quicker maturity. We are after all reproducing as a species at a massive rate. Ethiopia has almost quadrupled its [population since the famine days of 1983/4. We need that plant growth.
If co2 levels were to drop just 50 parts per million below the pre-industrial level to 200 ppm, all plants would die and Earth would become a dead planet. ALL of life depends on the process of photosynthesis.
Greenhouse growers artificially and at great expense raise co2 levels in their glass houses to more than twice the outside levels. Why? To grow better tomatoes at a faster rate.
YOU SIR are a carbon based life form. WE all are. So are all the animals and plants. WE ARE CARBON.
Be happy.
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Isn't it pretty obvious that longer, hotter, drier periods will increase the likelihood and intensity of wildfires ? (I'm sure there will be some research somewhere attempting to quantify the effect)
I wonder if the £150 billions figure caught your attention.
Reeves problem is peanuts in comparison.
My Aviva shares took a hit this week, and Aviva is only partially hit by potential claims.
Maybe they should stop insuring for fire in tinder box areas where people have wooden houses.
NONE of this is new. I posted clear evidence about it above.
1851 - Pre global warming
"Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[9]: 386–387 The fires covered five million hectares, around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria. Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts were badly hit, and around twelve lives were recorded lost, along with one million sheep and thousands of cattle.[16]
I expect that like me you are old enough to remember 1940s and 1950s western films about bush fires in the old wild west. Can't you recall the fields of corn burning and barns and horses screaming? Maybe not. Some people have non functioning memory.
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Ha ha ha ha - I just found this from the fire defence people in California.
WILD FIRES ARE VERY MUCH DECREASING IN NUMBER IN CALIFORNIA.
www.frontlinewildfire.com
Source: CAL FIRE
WILD FIRES ARE VERY MUCH DECREASING IN NUMBER IN CALIFORNIA.
California Wildfires History & Statistics | Frontline Wildfire Defense
Read about California wildfire history, key statistics, and what you can learn from them to help protect your home and loved ones.
www.frontlinewildfire.com
| Year | Number of Wildfires | Acres Burned |
| 1987 | 13,476 | 873,000 |
| 1988 | 13,290 | 345,000 |
| 1989 | 10,024 | 173,400 |
| 1990 | 10,548 | 365,200 |
| 1991 | 9,609 | 44,200 |
| 1992 | 12,047 | 282,745 |
| 1993 | 8,689 | 309,779 |
| 1994 | 10,269 | 526,219 |
| 1995 | 8,492 | 209,815 |
| 1996 | 10,610 | 752,372 |
| 1997 | 9,502 | 283,885 |
| 1998 | 7,572 | 215,412 |
| 1999 | 11,125 | 1,172,850 |
| 2000 | 7,622 | 295,026 |
| 2001 | 9,458 | 329,126 |
| 2002 | 8,328 | 969,890 |
| 2003 | 9,116 | 1,020,460 |
| 2004 | 8,415 | 264,988 |
| 2005 | 7,162 | 222,538 |
| 2006 | 8,202 | 736,022 |
| 2007 | 9,093 | 1,520,362 |
| 2008 | 6,255 | 1,593,690 |
| 2009 | 9,159 | 422,147 |
| 2010 | 6,554 | 109,529 |
| 2011 | 7,989 | 168,545 |
| 2012 | 7,950 | 869,599 |
| 2013 | 9,907 | 601,635 |
| 2014 | 7,865 | 625,540 |
| 2015 | 8,745 | 893,362 |
| 2016 | 6,986 | 669,534 |
| 2017 | 9,560 | 1,548,429 |
| 2018 | 8,527 | 1,975,086 |
| 2019 | 7,860 | 259,823 |
| 2020 | 9,639 | 4,397,809 |
| 2021 | 8,835 | 2,568,948 |
| 2022 | 7,490 | 362,455 |
| 2023 | 7,127 | 324,917 |
they may just do that.
The affected area is so devastated that it would take a decade or more to rebuild.
The new builds will have to have better roofs.
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