Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[Ghost1951]

we burn fossil fuels, we increase the temperature of the air at low attitude under the clouds and amount of water in the clouds. That is to be expected. What is more difficult to make the link is between those two things above with increase in kinetic energy of the air mass leading to stronger hurricanes, storms, tides and winds. The inevitable consequences are record breaking weather events.

No - what is happening is that an army of Justin Rowlats and their followers are running around the world looking for bad weather events and plastering them across 24 hour news channels as a cheap substitute for real news. They really like the way useful fools on social media amplify their hysteria.

Early European explorers of the Australian coastline noted extensive bushfire smoke. Abel Janszoon Tasman's expedition saw smoke drifting over the coast of Tasmania in 1642 and noted blackened trunks and baked earth in the forests. While charting the east coast in 1770, Captain Cook's crew saw autumn fires in the bush burning on most days of the voyage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfires_in_Australia

 

[Ghost1951]

Global warming causing fire????

"Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[9]: 386–387  The fires covered five million hectares, around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria. Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts were badly hit, and around twelve lives were recorded lost, along with one million sheep and thousands of cattle.[16]

New arrivals from the wetter climes of Britain and Ireland learned painful lessons in fire management and the European farmers slowly began to adapt – growing green crops around their haystacks and burning fire breaks around their pastures, and becoming cautious about burn offs of wheatfield stubble and ringbarked trees.[9]: 387  But major fire events persisted, including South Gippsland's 1898 Red Tuesday bushfires that burned 260,000 hectares (640,000 acres) and claimed twelve lives and more than 2,000 buildings.[16]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfires_in_Australia

Must have been going on a long time.

 

[Woosh]

No - what is happening is that an army of Justin Rowlats and their followers are running around the world looking for bad weather events and plastering them across 24 hour news channels as a cheap substitute for real news. They really like the way useful fools on social media amplify their hysteria.

Records going back to 2 centuries ago are broken one after another and you just dismiss them? What have you done with your scientific education?
When do random events become a trend then become an evidence?
Fires in california happen every year, the records that are broken this time is the number of people evacuated, and the amount of insurance claims. 150 billions is the current estimate and the fires are still raging.

 

[Peter.Bridge]

The reality is that the global mean temperature has risen one degree centigrade since the mid 19th century.

So, according to AR6, Earth’s average temperature in the last decade (2011-2020) was 1.09℃ warmer than pre-industrial times (defined as 1850-1900)

IPCC have provided a table detailing the 20 year period when we are likely, on average, to exceed set warming levels for different emissions scenarios (SSP1-2.6 is the lowest, and I would suggest that we are now not likely to follow that scenario). If we wanted to specify a year when the trend will hit that warming level we could take the mid point of that 20 year range



So, the best estimate of hitting 1.5 degrees warming will be the early 2030s

 

[Ghost1951]

Records going back to 2 centuries ago are broken one after another and you just dismiss them? What have you done with your scientific education?
When do random events become a trend then become an evidence?
Fires in california happen every year, the records that are broken this time is the number of people evacuated, and the amount of insurance claims. 150 billions is the current estimate and the fires are still raging.

California is an arid area. It has always been fire prone. The issue is land management and more development in fire prone areas. Insurance claims rising is no surprise is it, if you think about it. If you live in a dry land area and do not control the underbrush and you build your homes out of wood, don't be surprised if they burn down when a fire starts. As for the ignition event, an individual was seen starting one of these blazes deliberately and he has been arrested. Whatever caused the others to start I have no idea.

Did you see my post above about the nineteenth century fires in Australia?

Even before that, Captain Cook called Australia, "a continent of smoke" after exploring the east coast in 1770. He noted that he saw smoke during the day and fires at night wherever he went.

Five years ago when there was a particularly bad fire season in Victoria people like you were howling about global warming causing massive fires. The real reason was that environmental laws had prevented controlled burning as has been practised by the aborigines for forty thousand years and dead material and weeds had proliferated, died and dried creating a massive un-burned fuel source. The resulting fires did a lot of damage. The poor management ws the problem, not a notional rise in global mean temperature.

FACT: the mean global temperature is now 15C.

In pre-industrial times the mean global temperature was 14C.

The rise in carbon dioxide levels from 240 parts per million of atmosphere (1 molecule in 4066 of the atmosphere) to 417 parts per million (1 molecule of carbon dioxide in 2398 of the atmosphere ) is responsible for this rise of 1 degree c.

At one molecule in every 2398 molecules of atmosphere, co2 is an essential life giving, and wonderful thing for us. It allows us to grow more food and produces more plant growth and quicker maturity. We are after all reproducing as a species at a massive rate. Ethiopia has almost quadrupled its [population since the famine days of 1983/4. We need that plant growth.

If co2 levels were to drop just 50 parts per million below the pre-industrial level to 200 ppm, all plants would die and Earth would become a dead planet. ALL of life depends on the process of photosynthesis.

Greenhouse growers artificially and at great expense raise co2 levels in their glass houses to more than twice the outside levels. Why? To grow better tomatoes at a faster rate.

YOU SIR are a carbon based life form. WE all are. So are all the animals and plants. WE ARE CARBON.

Be happy.

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Isn't it pretty obvious that longer, hotter, drier periods will increase the likelihood and intensity of wildfires ? (I'm sure there will be some research somewhere attempting to quantify the effect)

 

[Woosh]

California is an arid area. It has always been fire prone. The issue is land management and more development in fire prone areas. Insurance claims rising is no surprise is it, if you think about it. If you live in a dry land area and do not control the underbrush and you build your homes out of wood, don't be surprised if they burn down when a fire starts. As for the ignition event, an individual was seen starting one of these blazes deliberately and he has been arrested. Whatever caused the others to start I have no idea.

I wonder if the £150 billions figure caught your attention.
Reeves problem is peanuts in comparison.
My Aviva shares took a hit this week, and Aviva is only partially hit by potential claims.

 

[Ghost1951]

I wonder if the £150 billions figure caught your attention.
Reeves problem is peanuts in comparison.
My Aviva shares took a hit this week, and Aviva is only partially hit by potential claims.

Maybe they should stop insuring for fire in tinder box areas where people have wooden houses.

NONE of this is new. I posted clear evidence about it above.

1851 - Pre global warming

"Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[9]: 386–387  The fires covered five million hectares, around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria. Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts were badly hit, and around twelve lives were recorded lost, along with one million sheep and thousands of cattle.[16]

I expect that like me you are old enough to remember 1940s and 1950s western films about bush fires in the old wild west. Can't you recall the fields of corn burning and barns and horses screaming? Maybe not. Some people have non functioning memory.

 

[Ghost1951]

Ha ha ha ha - I just found this from the fire defence people in California.

WILD FIRES ARE VERY MUCH DECREASING IN NUMBER IN CALIFORNIA.

California Wildfires History & Statistics | Frontline Wildfire Defense

Read about California wildfire history, key statistics, and what you can learn from them to help protect your home and loved ones.

www.frontlinewildfire.com

Year	Number of Wildfires	Acres Burned
1987	13,476	873,000
1988	13,290	345,000
1989	10,024	173,400
1990	10,548	365,200
1991	9,609	44,200
1992	12,047	282,745
1993	8,689	309,779
1994	10,269	526,219
1995	8,492	209,815
1996	10,610	752,372
1997	9,502	283,885
1998	7,572	215,412
1999	11,125	1,172,850
2000	7,622	295,026
2001	9,458	329,126
2002	8,328	969,890
2003	9,116	1,020,460
2004	8,415	264,988
2005	7,162	222,538
2006	8,202	736,022
2007	9,093	1,520,362
2008	6,255	1,593,690
2009	9,159	422,147
2010	6,554	109,529
2011	7,989	168,545
2012	7,950	869,599
2013	9,907	601,635
2014	7,865	625,540
2015	8,745	893,362
2016	6,986	669,534
2017	9,560	1,548,429
2018	8,527	1,975,086
2019	7,860	259,823
2020	9,639	4,397,809
2021	8,835	2,568,948
2022	7,490	362,455
2023	7,127	324,917

Source: CAL FIRE

 

[Woosh]

Maybe they should stop insuring for fire in tinder box areas where people have wooden houses.

they may just do that.
The affected area is so devastated that it would take a decade or more to rebuild.
The new builds will have to have better roofs.

Look at this building:

and this one:

 

[Ghost1951]

California Fire Service record of fires back to 1885. Interesting - vast fires long ago. Click on map to see details.

Map Viewer

 

[Woosh]

California Fire Service record of fires back to 1885. Interesting - vast fires long ago. Click on map to see details.

That map is difficult to see the differences just by the shades of red. Some numbers are easier to understand than those maps.
Map created that shows 11 California counties most at risk for wildfires
The area where the Palisades fires are is Los Angeles county, ranked No 4 at risk in CA.
Probability of fires: near certainty, 99.9%. However, expected annual loss: $109 millions. This time, £150 billions. See the scale?

 

[nigelbb]

Apparently the LA wildfires were caused by a “direct energy weapon” attack designed to erode humanity and implement “15-minute cities”. The intent of such attacks is to erode national identities and eventually form a one-world government by destroying people’s livelihoods.

 

[saneagle]

Records going back to 2 centuries ago are broken one after another and you just dismiss them? What have you done with your scientific education?
When do random events become a trend then become an evidence?
Fires in california happen every year, the records that are broken this time is the number of people evacuated, and the amount of insurance claims. 150 billions is the current estimate and the fires are still raging.

Another record will be broken for the number of people killed in London in one event, when a nuclear bomb lands. I guess, according to your logic, that will also be due to climate change.

 

[Woosh]

Another record will be broken for the number of people killed in London in one event, when a nuclear bomb lands. I guess, according to your logic, that will also be due to climate change.

You need a series of nuclear blasts to work out a trend and from then decide if the trend is linked to something else. Most of what I see go back to petrol companies. They are the ones with a track record. They buy politicians and now governments. Then there are those who push digital currencies and now AI. One thing that lot have in common are hedge funds and their billionaires owners.

 

[MikelBikel]

"Sceance-tists" can't count, they announce "warmest" year ever in icy cold winter, and UK met office collecting "data" from 100 weather stations that Don't exist! Haha

 

[nigelbb]

"Sceance-tists" can't count, they announce "warmest" year ever in icy cold winter, and UK met office collecting "data" from 100 weather stations that Don't exist! Haha

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) has confirmed that 2024 is the warmest year on record. The reason it's been announced in icy cold weather is that it's now January 2025 & we had to wait until all the data for 2024 was available. Do you think that should have waited until July before reporting?

WMO confirms 2024 as warmest year on record at about 1.55°C above pre-industrial level

The global average surface temperature was 1.55 °C (with a margin of uncertainty of ± 0.13 °C) above the 1850-1900 average, according to WMO’s consolidated analysis of the six datasets. This means that we have likely just experienced the first calendar year with a global mean temperature of more...

wmo.int

 

[MikelBikel]

I suppose there is some reason for the reluctance to building with the Adobe method in Cali?
Maybe it's seen as too poor and Mex looking?
What's the difference between Cob, Adobe and Wattle and daub, if it matters?

 

[MikelBikel]

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) has confirmed that 2024 is the warmest year on record. The reason it's been announced in icy cold weather is that it's now January 2025 & we had to wait until all the data for 2024 was available. Do you think that should have waited until July before reporting?

WMO confirms 2024 as warmest year on record at about 1.55°C above pre-industrial level

The global average surface temperature was 1.55 °C (with a margin of uncertainty of ± 0.13 °C) above the 1850-1900 average, according to WMO’s consolidated analysis of the six datasets. This means that we have likely just experienced the first calendar year with a global mean temperature of more...

wmo.int

As they make up their "data", their "cult beliefs" are of no interest, hehe

 

[nigelbb]

As they make up their "data", their "cult beliefs" are of no interest, hehe

I have no interest in the ravings of some loon on YouTube. Please provide a reference to a peer reviewed article confirming this fraud.