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Nobody got fined yet and sales of evs are increasing at the rate of knots. GM reckon they can beat Tesla may be as soon as next year.
 

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if they cant meet the sales last year then they wont meet the 28% target for this year will they and its all ******* anyway.

told step dad to forget the Vauxhall and get a petrol one asap cos i can see disability going all electric only and been waiting over a year for it now so no mobility ;)

i dont know anyone that wants a milk float let alone buy one out right and bin it when the batts dead.


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5000bhp turn my bosch batt it to a light bulb filament :p just make all the milk bottles the batt :D
 
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2 grand in 1990 wtf give that a bit of a woof next to a lambo at the lights its louder and makes clouds of cosmic dust :eek:
 
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if they cant meet the sales last year then they wont meet the 28% target for this year will they and its all ******* anyway.

told step dad to forget the Vauxhall and get a petrol one asap cos i can see disability going all electric only and been waiting over a year for it now so no mobility ;)

i dont know anyone that wants a milk float let alone buy one out right and bin it when the batts dead.


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5000bhp turn my bosch batt it to a light bulb filament :p just make all the milk bottles the batt :D
No milkfloat can do 0 to 60 in under 6 seconds, especially for the price 20k to 30k. The fact that VW Group, GM , Ford, etc now make a good effort to make and sell EVs is proof that they are decided, sell EVs or die.
 
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soundwave

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it will with a 5000bhp electric motor in it u need wheele bars :D its 4 1250 bhp motors stuck together
 
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a 5000bhp electric motor could get you to 400mph+ problem is the batt will need recharging every 2 runs down q mile :(
 
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@saneagle @Ghost1951 - I can'tfind your posts about BASIC. Those were the good old days when every computer shipped with a programming language, and your BASIC savvy students were targeted by Microsft using Visual Basic, a runaway success for the company which morphed into .NET. These days a programming environment has to be downloaded and installed, and isn't nearly as immediate or fun for youngsters wanting to learn to create solutions to problems. That era when most computers weren't predominately consnumer devices, spawned so many programmers, and we may never again see the like.
The best thing about the BBC was that you could add 12 x 8K EPROMS full of instantly accessible operating system commands in BBC Basic, like the voice one, so you'd type: *SAY, "Gurney is a weirdo . He rides a crank-drive ebike" into any program to loop as many times as you wanted, then the computer would say it whenever you wanted to confirm it's true, like my laptop does. The * tells the computer to scan through the EPROMs to find that command. *PRINT, *TYPE were other common ones, but each EPROM had its own list specific to what it did, like spreadsheet, word processor, etc.

I worked at Marconi at the time. The company did a bulk purchase scheme, so you could get a 20% discount, but the best thing was that it created a club of many tech savvy BBC nerds. Anybody, who go some software or firmware could bring it in, and they copied it to the main VAX computer. Anybody else could bring in blank EPROMs or discs, and they'd program them for you. We had every single game and utility that was ever written for the BBC. I wonder what happened to all that stuff. I hope it found its way to the Acorn BBC appreciation society.
 
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Anybody, who go some software or firmware could bring it in, and they copied it to the main VAX computer. Anybody else could bring in blank EPROMs or discs, and they'd program them for you.
Charles Moir at Computer Concepts would have had a field day if he knew what was going between the boys on at Marconi.
 

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Charles Moir was the managing director of his company, Computer Concepts Ltd. Rumours had it that in 1981, he wrote WordWise over a weekend, the best selling software for the Beeb. It was reputed to earn him a cool £8 mil, an enormous sum of money back in those days. I visited their HQ in Hemel Hampstead in 1983. It was a very impressive estate. It is probably even more impressive now.
 

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I think newspaper editors usually use the terminology "grooming gangs" when the offenders are a particular ethnicity (I'm not saying those cases aren't a problem - just pointing out the difficulty of analysing it properly without solid data ) - they call them paedophile rings or child sex rings in other cases

e.g. (using those google search terms)










Horrible, foul people - every one. They deserve long sentences.

Nothing excuses any of this. Minimising any of it, or posting stupid , bored faces as someone did above is shrugging shoulders about a filthy perverted inexcusable form of deviance.

That said, I counted up the number of victims from all of those cases. It came to 141 for the group / grooming offences in all of those links. Rotherham according to investigators had 1400 or more victims. There are supposed to be fifty towns where the racially aggravated Pakistani grooming gangs were and probably still are operating. The numbers of victims are in thousands Peter. The numbers of offenders also far outnumbers the other cases - many more the police say than were able to be prosecuted. One victim claims she was raped by a hundred men. Another said she had been raped a thousand times. Another that it went on all day long. The scale and severity of what has gone on is off the scale.

I hesitate to link to this excerpt from a trial transcript, and advise that it is horrible, but if you wonder why i am so angry read these sentencing remarks by a judge in one of these cases


Paragraph 53 is beyond words, detailing how one defendant prepared a 12 year old girl for anal, oral, and vaginal gang rape by five of six men. He describes how she was used in every orifice at the same time by a number of men. " At one time she had four men inside her at the same time," he said.

I have never in my life read anything so revolting as the words which the judge spoke in that paragraph.
 
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I am not in the least surprised at this cobblers about white men being the largest offender group. I KNEW it would be trotted out - I expected Flecc to be the one, but he only approved Andybike's remarks. Everything in the multi cultural garden is smelling or roses - in spite of the jails being filled with Pakistani men in vastly disproportionate numbers.
So why are you upset that this has been "Trotted out"
I would say you are upset because it is 100% the truth, and some it appears like to stick to the falsehoods so that plays into their narrative.

Talking about falsehoods, the prisons are not filled with Pakistani men*, as in fact the prison population for all Muslim men(And women) puts the figure at 9.3%

*Odd you seem to think all Muslims come from Pakistan. And I think you'll find the majority of that 9.3% are British Muslims. Who will probably be in prison for a range of offences.
 

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I have never in my life read anything so revolting as the words which the judge spoke in that paragraph.
Utterly horrific. As is the transcript of every case of abuse trial.
But why not read the personal testimony of those who reported their experiences to the IICSA, where the abuse of minors by members of the catholic church went on for decades, if not a century or two.

By singling one group out you fail to apply justice to other groups. Sex abuse of children has been happening in the UK long LONG before anyone of the Muslim faith came along.
 

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But why not read the personal testimony of those who reported their experiences to the IICSA, where the abuse of minors by members of the catholic church went on for decades, if not a century or two.
Indeed, for centuries the Catholic Church routinely castrated young choirboys to retain their falsetto singing voice. One might think they would today wish the young to have the maximum protection, yet the Vatican has the lowest age of consent for sex in the EU, at 12 years old.
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Utterly horrific. As is the transcript of every case of abuse trial.
But why not read the personal testimony of those who reported their experiences to the IICSA, where the abuse of minors by members of the catholic church went on for decades, if not a century or two.

By singling one group out you fail to apply justice to other groups. Sex abuse of children has been happening in the UK long LONG before anyone of the Muslim faith came along.
THIS is the current focus of attention. The trials have been going on for many years and they just keep on coming. The Catholic Church and the Anglican church have been completely undermined by the deviance of some clerics, and the feeble response by the hierarchy. The most recent example being the toppling of the career of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and hard questions about his possible successor, the current Archbishop of York for his own feeble response to known deviant priests. The Bishop of Newcastle Helen Hartley has spoken out repeatedly as to the loss of credibility of senior leaders.

Of course this grooming gang scandal is not the ONLY example of deviance that we see. The point is that the number of cases; the number of victims; the number of offenders; the persistence of the offending, and the sheer monstrous, cruelty of these multiple grooming gang cases, put them in a category of horror which is an order of magnitude worse than the others and it is exacerbated by the reluctance of politicians and public sector organisations to deal with it openly, and call it out for what it is.

It is quite funny - if anything about this terrible thing can be called that, that Jess Philips - now Parliamentary Under Secretary for the Home Office and previously shadow minister for safeguarding, wrote an interesting piece in the Guardian demanding a public Enquiry into the horrible events in Telford and elsewhere in 2018, but now seems to have changed her mind.

Cynical people, considering her previous stance, which you can read here below , say it is because she has such a very small majority and fears the backlash, were she to call for an enquiry which draws the obvious conclusion about where this crime of mass rape of poor white girls is coming from - she is MP for Birmingham Yardley so you can draw your own conclusions.


By the way - there is no mileage in anyone trying to make party political points here, because no party comes out shining, when you look at the timid actions and constant reassurances (which you are up to your neck in pal) of trying to suggest that this is not a product of extreme misogynistic, cultural bestiality.

I'd lock ANY child molester up for ever. But there is only ONE cultural group in the UK who are engaging in crimes of a severity and scale and pure evil of the kind we are discussing here. These crimes come from a particular group of criminal Pakistanis. They are Muslim by heritage but are not observant Muslims. They drink. They sell and use drugs and they are heavily involved in dishonesty. They have been led by the timidity of policing and feeble lack of condemnation, to think they have impunity and will not be caught. In some of these cases they have acted right under the noses of police who did nothing on finding a young teen aged girl performing sexual acts with an older man in a car in one case. They have been helped by police. How else when a charity worker took a victim to a police station did her abuser phone her in the police station, tell her he knew where she was, and threaten to kill her sister, so that she got up and left. Who told him that she was there? In one case where a young teen was abducted, a local Pakistani councillor negotiated her return and she was handed over to the police on the condition that the abductor was left alone and he was. If YOU don't know this - it is because you refuse to look. It doesn't suit your political outlook. That's on your conscience. Mine is clear.

In Rotherham, one in seventy-three of the Pakistani men in that town were convicted and sentenced for involvement in the rape of white girls. But the police made it clear that there were many more who could not be prosecuted because they were unidentifiable, but had committed the crimes.
 
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The number of convictions for child sex abuse is staggering. After Nazir Afzal became chief prosecutor the number of convictions hit record levels (these are all children figures)

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Yes - he did good work. He changed the charging criteria to take account of teh fact that some witnesses who would earlier have been said to lack credibility, should be taken seriously. Many of the victims were troubled, had poor skills and some had special needs. They were previously dismissed and their complaints went nowhere.

EX Detective Maggi OLiver on Good Morning on why cases were not pursued.

 
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