It's not my fault.Ah, there we are then, she doesn't need to lift it into a chip shop, just ride it
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It's my glands.
It's not my fault.Ah, there we are then, she doesn't need to lift it into a chip shop, just ride it
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No photos of the aforementioned please, it might put me off my fish and chipsIt's not my fault.
It's my glands.
No photos of the aforementioned please, it might put me off my fish and chips
As a former student of human anatomy I know the difference and don't want to see either thank youI said glands.
Not glans.
You've formed AN opinion. And seem to be proposing that one opinion to be a whole solution for the ebike industry. Which is naive.I could help you. But I think your stuck in your ways and are dead set against anything that doesn't conform to your long held experience of what you think the market is.
I also think you are being a bit disrespectful by insinuating I am in some way a troll by giving a counter argument.
Riding a bike is like, well riding a bike. You don't own the patent on that. I can form an opinion and defend it without being rude.
Try it. It's quite liberating.
What a load of rubbish.I think you are stuck in the past.
Literally everyone I have shown this to from experienced semi pro riders to people who haven't stepped on a bike for 20 years have squealed in delight when their legs make the first revolution of pedals on the Gtech.
The largest customer base is obviously in the cities. Most cities are in the main, flat with at most 1 'hill' to tackle twice a day. Wind is the real heartbreaker for non pedelec journeys.
Two people I know are ordering a Gtech off the back of having a go on mine and it's not because their primary reason is to go up a hill. It's about the joy of rediscovering cycling at a level that reminds them of being a kid. Everyone bar one that tried this bike bar one was under 40 and had no idea such technology existed. The chap that was aware of them was over 50 and bored me rigid for 10 mins whilst I patiently listened to him going on about lithium batteries. He was an engineer tbf...That is the biggest problem for your industry. You are not targeting the right people.
My experience of Ebike shops was disappointing to say the least. It reminded me of a little bit of dungeon and dragon stores in the past when I was a kid, or RC model shops. Great if your a fan but not great if your not a fan of being talked down to.
Off the peg sub 1k bikes will fly in the next year or so. They will be a huge seller this Xmas if someone with the clout can stump up the money for a decent advertising campaign or employs someone with nous to tap the enormous market for what is undoubtedly an excellent product that is already a major success in the biggest metropolis in the world.
This is a cottage industry atm but it's clear to me it won't stay that way for long when people realise the demand is there.
I wish I could get involved. There is a fortune to be made here.
Edit. Lol. I want to make clear I was not a Dungeons and Dragons fan. I just liked painting and making the little models.
yes, possibly. If Gtech can get the under 40 into e-bikes then a lot of good will come of it.Ahhh.
Is this the sound of the penny dropping?
I'm 38. Relatively fit but quite lazy. Always liked cycling but hated the wind and slopes.
Want to zoom to my friends and work without getting sweaty or oily. Will never go further than 30 miles in a day. Don't want to look like I'm Mary Poppins either.
I don't NEED an electric cycle per se. I could spend a grand in Evans and get the ******* of a bike. But that's not the point.
Fingers.
Absolutely right trex - here's a copy of my post #44 much much earlier in this thread.yes, possibly. If Gtech can get the under 40 into e-bikes then a lot of good will come of it.
Disclaimer: I have taught marketing at a Chamber of Commerce Business School.What a load of rubbish.
The fact that G-tech had to halve the price within a few months means that they weren't moving them,even at £900.00 they are not a bargain,I think the similar Raptor is much less than that.
Trex.....I am afraid your knowledgeable posting has bored our friend,he got switched off when someone started to talking to him about lithium battery types.my concern is the drooling effect of the carbon belt on the under 40s.
Gates recommend a preload tension of 85lbs (a chain is tensioned to 2lbs) to prevent slippage of their belt. In turn, higher tension is translated into stiffer rear triangle and it also adds a fair bit to the power consumption.
That defeats somewhat the object of a light assist bike.
A Karoo with Magura rim brakes (-450 grams), a GSM mid drive, Nexus 8 Inter (+1.7 kg) and no throttle or brake cut-offs (-350 grams) painted matt white with fire orange accents that could possible get my heart rate up a little. Chuck on the Gates carbon belt or competitor, a decent Selle Italia seat and ergonomic grips hmmmm... Can you feel the love? Oh and offer a diamond frame option (woman's frame if you wish, almost a kilo lighter than the step through frame) for us old geezers who are starting to have problems lifting our leg over the seat (and the ladies of course).my concern is the drooling effect of the carbon belt on the under 40s.
Take the carbon belt away, they won't want to know.
Gates recommend a preload tension of 85lbs (a chain is tensioned to 2lbs) to prevent slippage of their belt. In turn, higher tension is translated into stiffer, heavier rear triangle and it also adds a fair bit to the power consumption.
That defeats somewhat the object of a light assist bike. The other problem with gears is carbon belt is usually matched to the Nexus-8, forcing the motor to go to the bottom bracket or the front.
Agreed. Those bars are just wrong, and spoil the lines of that lovely GT (or GT inspired) frame.At £900 opposite the Raptor at £799 they are moving more to the under 40s. Maybe the god awful Raptor handlebars have something to do with that..
You mean a 14 day free trial but remember you have to send back with "reasonable use" which means... no mud EddieI think that I might well have to investigate the chance of getting one to review.
Ah with those the Raptor is now at £819, getting closer to £900...Agreed. Those bars are just wrong, and spoil the lines of that lovely GT (or GT inspired) frame.
Easily changed for £20 though.
Are you reading my lips Eddie... A free Rohloff!!! arrrghhhhh!!!So is that 14 days without spending a penny?
Something that will appeal to you (and me now) is that I might have the opportunity to scrounge for free, an mtb that has a rohloff hub fitted. A chance for me to start accumulating parts for a mid drive build.