Leaving the EU
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Given the low regard so many have for government, I think most will just continue to make up their own minds on the issue.
And many like me have a equally low regard for Prince Charles.
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Boris - Vote leave - is officially named - would be interesting to see if they could use the no throttle ruling as an example of how the EU laws work against the disadvantaged and elderly population of the UK.
I think that would leave much of the population even more baffled than they are now about the whole issue.
Tell them something that might threaten their car ownership and that would make them sit up and take notice.
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I don't know how to vote in this referendum. David Cameron wants to stay in, so I should want to leave. However, Boris wants to leave, so I should want to stay in. Typical Tories, they can't stick together so that I can vote against them.
Easy answer as you're in Scotland. Leave the UK and stuff the pair of them!
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One can only live in hope. Actually I quite like being British, if only England would stop voting Tory it would be a nice country.
But you're not really British. The name Britain came from the Roman name of Britannia which only referred to England. The southern half below a line from the Mersey to the Wash they called Britannia Superior, the half of England to the north of that line they called Britannia Inferior.One can only live in hope. Actually I quite like being British, if only England would stop voting Tory it would be a nice country.
That trend would place Scotland rock bottom, something I'm sure neither of us would like.
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My meager offering to Vote Leave explaining how our UK's government sympathetic EAPC law change has been undermined by the EU regulations was kindly received and passed on to the campaign office.
Whether it attracts any further action only time will tell but atleast they are now aware of this problem.
Where were you during the referendum debate? You could have swung it to a yes vote.
I'm actually 1/2 Irish, 1/4 Italian and 1/4 Scottish. I'm tea total. No wonder I get confused.
And I'm 1/2 Italian, 1/4 English and 1/4 Scots, and also teetotal.I'm actually 1/2 Irish, 1/4 Italian and 1/4 Scottish. I'm tea total. No wonder I get confused.
So we're both mongrels!
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I've been giving this a lot of thought. The problem is so much BS being spread around, it's difficult to to get any sensible information. If we leave, I can see life becoming difficult for British people living or working in the EU, a bit like what would have happened to Scottish people living in England if Scottish devolution had happened.
The status quo seems to be the safer option, again, we can look at the Scottish devolution to draw some parallels. If the yes had won, they would be bankrupt now and the EU would probably be working on another bail-out. I wonder how many would vote out if they did another referendum today. The problem is that you never know what's around the corner.
I'm sure that the government did enough figuring out to know that a brexit was viable before they allowed the referendum. They must have looked at contingency plans. Don't forget that standing behind us is our biggest ally, who might be able to help us for a change. They want us to stay in because we then become a keystone for NATO. If we come out, I can see the possibility of a new trading alliance. let's call it the North Atlantic Trading Alliance (NATA). That would include USA, Canada, UK and maybe Norway and Iceland. Don't forget that before the EU, we had plenty of trading partners, like New Zealand, India, Japan and all the Commonwealth countries, so I don't see trading as a problem. I think the real problems will be for individuals and specific companies who's markets are tied to EU, but for each of them, there's probably another company that will do very well from a brexit.
In the end, I think it'll make no real difference to the likes of us, but I think, I'd like to see change. During my career, I had some nice comfortable steady jobs, and had to make a decision whether to launch myself into the unknown of a new job with all the associated risks. In the short term, there were always problems, but in the longer term, I could always look back and say that the decision for change was a good one.
Like with Flecc, my situation should be fairly robust against any future turmoil, so I probably won't vote, but if I feel inspired on the day, I'll probably vote out, just for the excitement, nothing else.
The status quo seems to be the safer option, again, we can look at the Scottish devolution to draw some parallels. If the yes had won, they would be bankrupt now and the EU would probably be working on another bail-out. I wonder how many would vote out if they did another referendum today. The problem is that you never know what's around the corner.
I'm sure that the government did enough figuring out to know that a brexit was viable before they allowed the referendum. They must have looked at contingency plans. Don't forget that standing behind us is our biggest ally, who might be able to help us for a change. They want us to stay in because we then become a keystone for NATO. If we come out, I can see the possibility of a new trading alliance. let's call it the North Atlantic Trading Alliance (NATA). That would include USA, Canada, UK and maybe Norway and Iceland. Don't forget that before the EU, we had plenty of trading partners, like New Zealand, India, Japan and all the Commonwealth countries, so I don't see trading as a problem. I think the real problems will be for individuals and specific companies who's markets are tied to EU, but for each of them, there's probably another company that will do very well from a brexit.
In the end, I think it'll make no real difference to the likes of us, but I think, I'd like to see change. During my career, I had some nice comfortable steady jobs, and had to make a decision whether to launch myself into the unknown of a new job with all the associated risks. In the short term, there were always problems, but in the longer term, I could always look back and say that the decision for change was a good one.
Like with Flecc, my situation should be fairly robust against any future turmoil, so I probably won't vote, but if I feel inspired on the day, I'll probably vote out, just for the excitement, nothing else.
On the points here, I'd like to have seen the franchise extended to those 16 years and above as it was in the Scottish referendum. Now as then, it's their future and certainly not the future of those of my age since the long transition will probably see me out.
I've got a mature 17 year old neighbour so I think I'll ask him his view and vote on his behalf.
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apparently, there are about 12% floating voters, like jimod and d8veh. With both sides at neck and neck, they will be the deciders.