Hi from Fleet, Hampshire

[matthewslack]

Disadvantage is it has the weakest of the Bosch motors, the ActiveLine, which is only 40Nm. You would probably want to try it and the considerably stronger PerformanceLine / Performance Line CX before you commit.

It would do, and is step through which is useful, but £400 more gets you something quite a lot better, but not necessarily step through.

 

[saneagle]

Would this bike be a good choice?

Raleigh eBike Motus Tour Step Through Hub Gear Bosch Motor Red

Brand new for 2022 the new Raleigh Motus Tour hub gear electric bike, mid level Raleigh ebike now with a Bosch battery 500Wh.

www.electricbikesales.co.uk

I really like the look of it although I tend to associate Raleigh with kid's bikes.

There's nothing wrong with the bike, but remember that you need a Bosch dealer to deal with any electrical issues, and dealers don't like dealing with bikes they didn't sell. Make sure that you have somebody to fix it before you buy it, otherwise things can become a bit awkward. You can buy that bike from Halfords for £1400, which might be a bit more convenient. Be careful about other Halfords bikes. If you choose one, run it by us first.

https://www.halfords.com/seasonal/christmas-gifts/gifts-for-her/raleigh-motus-tour-low-step-electric-bike-pink---l-frame-313211.html?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Cycling%3EBikes%3EElectric+Bikes-_-Cycling%3EBikes%3EElectric+Bikes-_-313211&&_$ja=tsid:%7Ccid:17381235773%7Cagid:%7Ctid:%7Ccrid:%7Cnw:x%7Crnd:7368259212005028415%7Cdvc:c%7Cadp:%7Cmt:%7Cloc:9194217&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAgoq7BhBxEiwAVcW0LHMKa1-cM4Nm4s7_J5GCjTZYK3UJvBDoasrf7sGgjV6s_B6l2ZXmNBoC9DYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The old Raleigh shut down. The name was bought by Accell, a European bike company, nothing to do with the old one.

Also, remember what I said before. 105kg and hills don't go together well unless your motor can produce decent torque.

 

[steeveclarke]

There's nothing wrong with the bike, but remember that you need a Bosch dealer to deal with any electrical issues, and dealers don't like dealing with bikes they didn't sell. Make sure that you have somebody to fix it before you buy it, otherwise things can become a bit awkward. You can buy that bike from Halfords for £1400, which might be a bit more convenient. Be careful about other Halfords bikes. If you choose one, run it by us first.

https://www.halfords.com/seasonal/christmas-gifts/gifts-for-her/raleigh-motus-tour-low-step-electric-bike-pink---l-frame-313211.html?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Cycling%3EBikes%3EElectric+Bikes-_-Cycling%3EBikes%3EElectric+Bikes-_-313211&&_$ja=tsid:%7Ccid:17381235773%7Cagid:%7Ctid:%7Ccrid:%7Cnw:x%7Crnd:7368259212005028415%7Cdvc:c%7Cadp:%7Cmt:%7Cloc:9194217&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAgoq7BhBxEiwAVcW0LHMKa1-cM4Nm4s7_J5GCjTZYK3UJvBDoasrf7sGgjV6s_B6l2ZXmNBoC9DYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The old Raleigh shut down. The name was bought by Accell, a European bike company, nothing to do with the old one.

Also, remember what I said before. 105kg and hills don't go together well unless your motor can produce decent torque.

65nm of torque is going to struggle on hills?

I suppose it depends on the hill. The one coming in to Guildford from the Farnham direction is quite steep.

 

[saneagle]

65nm of torque is going to struggle on hills?

I suppose it depends on the hill. The one coming in to Guildford from the Farnham direction is quite steep.

A crank motor doesn't have any fixed amount of torque. The torque at the back wheel is all that matters, and that depends on your gearing and how much power comes out of the motor.

Hub-motor torque does not depend on the gearing; however, the torque is directly proportional to the current, and the current is determined by the controller.

 

[steeveclarke]

How about this one?

This shop is actually in the town where I live.

2025 Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500 Night Black

The <strong>Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500</strong> offers an unbeatable combination of power, agility, and cutting-edge technology.Designed for those who want to venture off the beaten path or cruise through city streets with ease, this versatile e-bike comes equipped with the latest...

www.pedalheaven.co.uk

 

[saneagle]

How about this one?

This shop is actually in the town where I live.

2025 Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500 Night Black

The <strong>Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500</strong> offers an unbeatable combination of power, agility, and cutting-edge technology.Designed for those who want to venture off the beaten path or cruise through city streets with ease, this versatile e-bike comes equipped with the latest...

www.pedalheaven.co.uk

It seems expensive compared with the Argos E-move I bought for £340, which goes just as fast and nearly as far. It's been in daily use since beginning of August and hasn't missed a beat. It's very similar to the more powerful 48v one I linked above somewhere. I find it very difficult to justify £2000 for an ebike, but if you have money to spare, what the hell, go for it. Whatever you do, don't put yourself in debt for it:

Argos Cheap Ebike £360

Never seen this so low price, they'll be giving them away soon. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9464283

www.pedelecs.co.uk

 

[Peter.Bridge]

65nm of torque is going to struggle on hills?

I suppose it depends on the hill. The one coming in to Guildford from the Farnham direction is quite steep.

I can't see any hills If you are used to cycling unpowered I think you are getting to be pleasantly surprised by ebikes and the gradients that you will get up on them !


I'm in my sixties and over 100kg and on my admittedly quite powerful (48V max current 18A) rear hub bike , this hill with a gradient between 10-27% is part of one of my favourite routes. Most of this hill I can use 50% assistance, just where it gets to 27% I do use full power. On my mid drive bike I get up it even easier. I could never have done this unpowered

 

[Peter.Bridge]

How about this one?

This shop is actually in the town where I live.

2025 Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500 Night Black

The <strong>Cube Reaction Hybrid Performance 500</strong> offers an unbeatable combination of power, agility, and cutting-edge technology.Designed for those who want to venture off the beaten path or cruise through city streets with ease, this versatile e-bike comes equipped with the latest...

www.pedalheaven.co.uk

Looks a very nice bike.

 

[matthewslack]

65Nm will be much nicer than 40. You only need the 85 of the CX offroad or in extreme hills. 500Wh battery is good enough. Don't settle for 400, get 600+ if the option came up.

9 speed, so limited gearing range, but does not matter: you can upgrade to 10 or 11 speed when the first cassette wears out, and get up to 40% lower bottom gear. That sorts all hills out!

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Just one thing to be aware of , the maximum motor assist will be set to 15.5 mph / 25 km/h as per UK law and it is very difficult to get round that on the more expensive proprietary bikes (which would be breaking the law anyway ! but is usually possible on the cheaper Chinese generic bikes )

 

[steeveclarke]

It seems expensive compared with the Argos E-move I bought for £340, which goes just as fast and nearly as far. It's been in daily use since beginning of August and hasn't missed a beat. It's very similar to the more powerful 48v one I linked above somewhere. I find it very difficult to justify £2000 for an ebike, but if you have money to spare, what the hell, go for it. Whatever you do, don't put yourself in debt for it:

Argos Cheap Ebike £360

Never seen this so low price, they'll be giving them away soon. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9464283

www.pedelecs.co.uk

Argos has sold out of the E-move it seems.

Another factor is, wherever I buy this bike needs to take "Cycle To Work" vouchers which Pedal Heaven in Fleet does. I don't think Argos do.

 

[sjpt]

Would this bike be a good choice?

Raleigh eBike Motus Tour Step Through Hub Gear Bosch Motor Red

Brand new for 2022 the new Raleigh Motus Tour hub gear electric bike, mid level Raleigh ebike now with a Bosch battery 500Wh.

www.electricbikesales.co.uk

I really like the look of it although I tend to associate Raleigh with kid's bikes.

As someone else mentioned, Raleigh doesn't really mean Raleigh any more.

We have an 8 year old Motus with step-through and hub gears (bought 2nd hand about 6 years ago) and it's served us very well with just a couple of minor niggles. It has a standard Bosch rear rack battery which was expensive but not prohibitive (Merlin bikes) to replace just recently. The original was still OK, but clearly not 100%, and I wanted to replace it before replacements became hard to find. As has been mentioned, the bikes with proprietary electrics tie you in so be aware. Even though the bike has been good for us, I wouldn't replace it with similar for that reason. The new Motus front tube battery could become very difficult to find 6 to 10 years down the line.

If that is the style of bike you like, Gazelle (Dutch I think?) make some very sensible bikes. The electric bike shop Bristol often has a range of 'sensible' 2nd hand bikes including Gazelle. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?item=286207074413&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211&_ssn=electricbikesbristol A friend recently went there and they were very helpful indeed and allowed sensible test rides. Lots of shops think 5 minutes round the car park is a test ride, some don't even allow that. In the end she didn't buy from them because they didn't have quite what she wanted.

 

[Az.]

Avoid proprietary e-bikes.

 

[thelarkbox]

FYI Im circa 90kg and not athletic in my 60's my cycle back from the city is up'slope' 3 routes,

Route 1 slope all the way and a breeze on the ebike at top speed busy roads and traffic allowing.

route #2 2 x 'hills' both i could always tackle but out of the seat leaning the bike for advantage puffing and panting sweating red faced gritted teeth and determined.

route 3 1 longer steeper hill seems like 35 degrees but isnt according to maps.. (about 1/4 mile) Never climbed it analogue.

Distance is about the same, but the route 1 is by road and routes 2, and 3 are more and more off rd and pleasant and less risky

My ebike a yose-power conversion 36v no mods on a basic ortler dutch style step through 7 speed.

the hils on route 2 i sail up in the saddle not sweating or red faced at circa 12mph with modest pedal input in 3rd or 4th gear.

I had to try the hill on route 3 and i had to drop down a gear or two more and pedal a little harder and the motor wasnt happy as i crowned the crest at circa 8mph to my surprise and glee. )

if slogging up hill for mile after mile a mid drive may be more appropriate, otherwise cheaper and easier to maintain hub drives are pretty great too.

If however you buy a bike and find it lacking in any way a branded bike will have built in measures to stop you upgrading the system to provide more power, while a generic kit build may need just a 'simple' (£100) controller upgrade to deliver a few more crucial amps to the motor. and if more drastic improvements are required the option to upgrade further to a 48v battery is open too. few if any off the shelf branded ebikes offer this flexibility.

 

[Ghost1951]

Argos has sold out of the E-move it seems.

Another factor is, wherever I buy this bike needs to take "Cycle To Work" vouchers which Pedal Heaven in Fleet does. I don't think Argos do.

The Argos bikes are so cheap, I doubt you would need to worry about cycle to work vouchers. The one I got was £245 but in the end was £252 delivered. Cheap and cheerful.

 

[steeveclarke]

The Argos bikes are so cheap, I doubt you would need to worry about cycle to work vouchers. The one I got was £245 but in the end was £252 delivered. Cheep and cheerful.

Argos only have this one that's cheap.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/4729693

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Argos only have this one that's cheap.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/4729693

Argos bike EplusCFX5

Hi, I was hoping forum members could provide opinion/ experience with this. Judging by the reviews on Argos it seems some regard it as a bit of a workhorse. From the dimensions it may suit someone 5 10. I have an electric Raleigh Array suntour hesc which after 8 plus years of regular use still...

www.pedelecs.co.uk

 

[thelarkbox]

If converting a suitable bike is not an option Woosh https://wooshbikes.co.uk/ and Whisper have a rep in here for selling quality bikes with longevity in mind so a replacement part or battery enquiry wont be considered a new bike sale lead a year or three later.

I seem to recall a few folk mentioning problems including delivery costs after claiming a voucher for a new ebike from some scheme. So get the full delivered to your door cost before submitting a claim is the point - no experience myself so shooting blind here.

 

[saneagle]

Argos only have this one that's cheap.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/4729693

There are plenty of good cheap ebikes similar to the Argos E-move on Amazon and Ebay

 

[RoadieRoger]

The most common batteries on the Standard Chinese Ebikes over the last 14 years are the Silver Fish type that are attached to the seat downtube , they slide down a rail and are located with a plunger . Replacements are reasonably priced and plentiful compared to the scores of oddly shaped ones in the Video posted on here . For instance I purchased a YOSE one on Ebay UK for my Fat Tyre to extend it`s range about 5 years ago and I see the 36V 15Ah is still £190 on their site . This is considerably cheaper than replacements for the Named make Ebikes , that`s even if they are still obtainable .
I just googled Ebay to see if the Silver Fish type are fitted as standard to larger wheeled Ebikes and came across the ONESPORT OT 18 for £499 which appears to be a bit of a bargain . There are numerous 20 in. Folders with these batteries including the OT 16 from the same Manufacturer with a 48V 17Ah Battery for £599 . There are numerous others by Colourway ,Farfrees , Samebike, Hitway etc. with combinations of battery capacity , fat tyres and frame material .
So Steeve you don`t need to spend a fortune on a named make with the standard Chinese fare so plentiful on Ebay at reasonable prices .