Hi from Fleet, Hampshire

steeveclarke

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I test rode some bikes yesterday and this was the standout bike. I have submitted a "cycle to work scheme" for it.


Thank you to everyone here who helped me with advice.
 

matthewslack

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I test rode some bikes yesterday and this was the standout bike. I have submitted a "cycle to work scheme" for it.


Thank you to everyone here who helped me with advice.
A review of the two speed thing would be good to read, maybe after the first 1,000 miles or so. Sounds interesting combined with the belt drive.
 
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Peter.Bridge

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I test rode some bikes yesterday and this was the standout bike. I have submitted a "cycle to work scheme" for it.


Thank you to everyone here who helped me with advice.
Can I ask what other bikes you test rode and what you thought ?
 

steeveclarke

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Can I ask what other bikes you test rode and what you thought ?
a Haibike Trekking 3 which was good but a bit bulky.

I tried a Estarli 20.8 folder which felt a bit small and cramped after the 28.X. My non-electric Brompton is still my favourite folding bike.

The 28.X is probably closest to my Specialized in terms of size. The tyres are wider but the bike felt light to handle. It was immediately comfortable.

I was worried the motor would make the bike feel like it was running away from me but it was really easy to keep under control.
 
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matthewslack

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I was worried the motor would make the bike feel like it was running away from me but it was really easy to keep under control.
That's the torque sensor.
 

AndyBike

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I test rode some bikes yesterday and this was the standout bike. I have submitted a "cycle to work scheme" for it.


Thank you to everyone here who helped me with advice.
Thats pretty much the Buzzbike - And with Buzzbike shutting, i think this is where the stock is going.

Having got one - £500 in the CRC shut down sale, my long term review is it is pretty good, You'll possibly have to charge it more as the battery is smallish, but i use mine on max and probably get 15 miles on it.
The 2 speed gearbox works fine, and on the higher speed(harder to turn) its not too hard and seems if anything to be quite a sweet spot.
With only 2 gears, long steep hills arent really its thing, and while it will do them, you'll possibly have to stand up on the bike, but on the flat it is excellent. Gentle inclines are no problem.

The belt drive** is good, its my first foray into a belt drive from 30+ chain driven bikes, and i certainly dont miss them.
The wheels are fine, not the best but more than adequate.
Brakes are two pots, which i've found arent that powerful, I've swopped out my front for a much better shimano 4 pot
I've also swopped out my fork for a cheapo sus, though I wouldnt recommend that as its a bit of a nightmare in the headset department with some very odd sizes and getting a headset to fit wasnt easy. If you dont mind sticking to rigid, I'd stick to rigid.

TIP 1- On the buzzbike, which is what this is, they recommend removing the battery to charge it. So I remove. You probably can charge it in the frame, and it has the function, but they recommended out, so just following orders.
TIP 2- Due to the belt needing to be extremely tight, i would avoid needing to remove the rear wheel unless absolutely necessary so make sure whatever tyre you have fitted is a good quality puncture protected. If you ever do have to remove and refit, It looks like a two person job - to pull the wheel backwards while one person does up thee nuts/bolts

**Try to keep the belt free from damage. Its a gates belt and replacements are pretty damn expensive.

I've 2 bikes. one is £5k, the other is £500 and im finding this, the 500 one a very capable urban townie bike. So not everything needs to cost the earth to give you good service.

Enjoy
 
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saneagle

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A review of the two speed thing would be good to read, maybe after the first 1,000 miles or so. Sounds interesting combined with the belt drive.
That was on the old Momentum bikes that were pretty similar to that Estaril except they had chains instead of belts. Naturally, they went bust. Don't confuse them with the new Momentum brand launched by Giant, though, mysteriously, they have a model that's similar.

Momentum Voya E+ 2 2024 | Tredz Bikes
 

thelarkbox

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Hope you enjoy the new bike, as long as it suits you and brings a smile to your face all is good..

You mentioned security earlier.. Locks etc only go so far and a determined thief will find a way.. insurance is your best backup, try adding to a home policy for the best vfm
 
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Peter.Bridge

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I'm intrigued by the 2 speed gears. I'm thinking if you are not going to pedal above the legal cut off speed and you keep above 7-8 mph on hills (which is recommended for hub motors) then probably 2 speed is ideal (obviously not somewhere very hilly). I feel on electric bikes you don't use the gears nearly as much, especially with a speed controller
 
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steeveclarke

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Dec 18, 2024
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I'm intrigued by the 2 speed gears. I'm thinking if you are not going to peddle above the legal cut off speed and you keep above 7-8 mph on hills (which is recommended for hub motors) then probably 2 speed is ideal (obviously not somewhere very hilly). I feel on electric bikes you don't use the gears nearly as much, especially with a speed controller
I was skeptical about the 2 speed gears but having "test ridden" it, I feel it will suit my needs fine. I rode the bike on the roads near the shop and there was a mix of flat with some gentle inclines and finally, a hill steeper than any of the ones near me. The bike navigated them all with ease.

On the flat sections, I sometimes rode with no power assist and the bike handled fine and didn't feel "heavy" at all.

I think the automatic 2-speed hub with belt drive is a good choice for me as I am very bad at keeping the chain and gears on my Specialized properly maintained.
 
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jamesporritt

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I was skeptical about the 2 speed gears but having "test ridden" it, I feel it will suit my needs fine. I rode the bike on the roads near the shop and there was a mix of flat with some gentle inclines and finally, a hill steeper than any of the ones near me. The bike navigated them all with ease.
Which steep hill?
 

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thelarkbox

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oooer, my 'big hill' isnt that big at all.. I swear its a 35 degree slope when facing it in person..
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guerney

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oooer, my 'big hill' isnt that big at all.. I swear its a 35 degree slope when facing it in person..
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Doesn't the red line indicate relief/height map? In which case it might start like a 35 degree slope - shorten the endpoint to the first hump, if the mappomatic website allows that short a distance. Or shorten the journey to the middle of that distance, before the long descent, whatever that distance measurement that is, it's a bit small to read. Screenshot with the fondleslab oriented sideways should enlarge the text.
 

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