Brexit, for once some facts.
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We intended to and had 17 years of negotiation with Argentina to that end:
"Whilst maintaining the British claim, the British Government (still) considered a transfer of sovereignty less than two years before the outbreak of war. However, the British Government had limited room for manoeuvre owing to the strength of the Falkland Islands lobby in the Houses of Parliament."
The long period of talks was to resolve the when issue, rather than if. The Argentinians wanted the start point to be them in 50% control of the islands, that gradually increasing. The British position was for the Argentinas to have a minor part from the outset with them only fully taking over when the last living Falklander died. Since babies were being born all the time, that meant about 80 years which the Argentinians couldn't accept.
The realisation that there might be oil in the continental shelf there probably finally scuppered the talks.
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Not for us any more.
Once we realised the impossibility of exploiting it from 8000 miles away, we ceded 50% of all of any oil found to Argentina if they looked after the local activity. Then when the price of oil crashed a few years ago as it started being in huge surplus, we lost all interest since it wouldn't pay us to exploit it from that great distance.
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with that number of troops? No, it can't be stopped unless Ukraine unconditionally surrenders.
Putin made it clear enough.
The West could not let Putin win so months of negotiation before the war started led to nowhere.
I thought Putin would stop and negotiate after initial gain because the West made it also plenty clear that it does not want a direct fight with Putin and would encourage Zelensky to negotiate.
Zelensky has shown how good he is as a leader, now the West is de facto in war with Putin, it can't stop either until Putin is deposed.
Next few days are going to be very telling. If Russia loses even more troops, which is a possibility, Putin will have to relax on his stance, or even be ousted by his own. If Ukraine loses lots of troops, civilians and towns Zelenskyy will have to make an unconditional surrender.
I actually think Putin doesn't want to raze Kyiv to ground but he will.
Flecc.. Georgia is /was unimportant . It was a dress rehearsal for Crimea. With a population of 3.5million, Georgia is no larger than Greater Manchester. No way it could have stood against Russia. No more than the Channel Islands could have stood against the Germans. Now Georgia has almost the same relationship with Russia as Finland ... Or dare I say Ireland had with the UK from 1940 to 44 ..you are free provided you don't vex us.
I have agreed with you to an extent that Crimea might have been handled differently in 2013 . But in fairness Putin made that rather difficult. But since then Putin has been seething and planning on making Ukraine a failed state. There is a Youtube lecture from about 6 years ago from the University of Chicago , which details Putin,s plans . Your argument of taking Odessa and the Black sea ports is fully consistent with that objective.
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Looks to me as if Putin is trying to make sure he has plenty of canon fodder. Reportedly getting 16,000 from the Middle East and wanting the 48,000 in Belarus.
Ukraine has had time to prepare some unpleasant surprises as the Russians approach Kyiv.
PS M&S are still selling Chicken Kievs.
They all are, even Waitrose.
If they want to be politically correct with more sensitivity, they could switch to the Italian version, Poco di Pollo, which I think actually superior.
More expensive to make though.
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Sainsbury and another have changed the name.
Sainsbury’s becomes first supermarket to rename chicken kiev to kyiv
It has also removed Russian products from its shelves
www.independent.co.uk
"As the Soviet Union disintegrated in May 1990, its leader Mikhail Gorbachev made what was, in effect, a concession speech to assembled dignitaries after a dinner at the Soviet embassy in Washington. Socialism in one country, the inward-looking dogma of the Russian Communist Party, was over. Instead, announced Gorbachev, “We have figured out we live in one world, in one civilisation.” The dish that the General Secretary and his guests had just polished off was a perfect symbol of Russia’s new internationalism and consumerism. Chicken Kiev: a Russian speciality that had become a staple in supermarkets around the world.Sainsbury and another have changed the name.
Sainsbury’s becomes first supermarket to rename chicken kiev to kyiv
It has also removed Russian products from its shelves
According to the Russians, chicken Kiev originated in the Muscovy region of the old Empire. The recipe – for a chicken filled with butter sauce and covered in breadcrumbs – was modified to perfection in the 19th century by a Ukrainian chef, hence the misleading name. This story reflects Russia’s traditional policy towards Ukraine: to let it exist as a distinct entity, but keep it firmly under the thumb of its old imperial master. In the Russian Federation, government canteens have cheekily rebranded the dish “chicken Crimea”.
Chicken Kiev: the world’s most contested ready-meal
Was it invented in Kiev, Moscow, Paris...or the backroom of a British supermarket?
Not being familiar with them, I am wondering what happens inside a tank where the barrel has been spiked. Anyone know?
I wouldn't want to be in it, but I, d guess they'd figure a way of firing it from outside?? Long string?? Or a pole??
If it would be really bad inside, like kill the crew or seriously injure them (as I think possible), then simply being alive and reasonably well would be evidence that it had happened by pulling a string - or whatever.
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I fear that Putin is in a corner, he's no way out other than up the stake.
I kind of think about the book 'Empire of the Sun', a story about the Japanese attacks on Shanghai in 1937.
Putin's legacy depend on what happen in Ukraine, yet even if he flattened all of it and installed a puppet government a subsequent insurgency war would make Afghanistan look like a walk in the park. Its very hard to see any other outcome than ww3 on some level
Ukraine war: Russian tactics evolve in face of Ukrainian resistance - as fears grow Putin could target a Western ally
Vladimir Putin has gambled his legacy on the war - and if it continues not to go his way, he may seek to escalate the violence even further.
That Putin has directly threatened deliveries of munitions to Ukraine as a legitimate target could be a turning point.Putin's legacy depend on what happen in Ukraine, yet even if he flattened all of it and installed a puppet government a subsequent insurgency war would make Afghanistan look like a walk in the park. Its very hard to see any other outcome than ww3 on some level
Ukraine war: Russian tactics evolve in face of Ukrainian resistance - as fears grow Putin could target a Western ally
Vladimir Putin has gambled his legacy on the war - and if it continues not to go his way, he may seek to escalate the violence even further.news.sky.com
I can imagine the intent being to attack a delivery, but the aircraft go over the line and fly over a NATO country. NATO could then attack the aircraft and, if they flee over Ukraine, use it as an invitation chase in hot pursuit.
I'd not like to predict the outcome.
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