Brexit, for once some facts.

[Danidl]

Not a recommendation, just an observation:

Medisana Blood Pressure Monitor - at Lidl UK

Medisana Blood Pressure Monitor - BU 510 Upper arm blood pressure monitor for accurate measurements Very large cuff – arm circumferences

www.lidl.co.uk

I use a Lidl product ..under the Sanitas brand. It is actually a rebranded German product and has a blue tooth link to my tablet or android smartphone , This means I can make a permanent record automatically by linking with the phone and making pdfs or csvs of the data all the way back to when I purchased it. I generally use it every day, and download maybe twice a week. Then when I go to the GP or Consultant ,they can do a little work, since they have data. Before the Blue tooth model, I would transcribe the data into Excel manually and make my graphs.
The German software works but is not as user friendly as I would like...
12 quid is a very low price so U would be concerned about quality.

 

[guerney]

“My Friend Thinks Bill Gates Will Microchip Humanity”. Now what?

A short guide to communicating with someone who believes in anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.

eeas.europa.eu

Read it GI... Think it's written for you.

My Windows computer hasn't crashed since I got vaxxed - the deep state play a long game, Windows has been waiting decades for all those tiny microchips to form a mesh AI co-processor all this time... but it's fully functioning and perfect now.

 

[GLJoe]

Good god, have you all seen this. I, ve just researched it on Internet. The earth is flat. It says so on here. Fact checked it too.. Governments have been lying all this time.
Would you believe it.

Only the very weak of mind present one dismissable 'conspiracy theory' as evidence to disprove all other 'conspiracy theories'

 

[Danidl]

So I've gone back and looked at the tables in the document I posted (its been updated slightly):

Link

I still don't see where you claim it only says 12 deaths where the Vaccine was a probable cause.
I see that the very first table, that is BLOOD DISORDERS ONLY has 12 as a total, but that would imply that you are so incompetent, you are unable to read the whole of the document, where there are numerous OTHER sections, such as the next one, which is Cardiac Disorders, with 169 deaths. etc etc, leading to a final tally of 1149 total fatal outcome reports.
Surely you're not THAT stupid? There must be another explanation that I'm missing.

So I politely ask again - where does it say '12 deaths where the Vaccine was a probable cause'

Obviously I am incompetent ..or the original download was truncated.

 

[Zlatan]

Only the very weak of mind present one dismissable 'conspiracy theory' as evidence to disprove all other 'conspiracy theories'

Mmm. So you accept you are offering a conspiracy theory.. Perhaps one with slightly more merit than flat earthers but they are equally convinced GI.
The "evidence" you offered about vaccine deaths is simply some spread sheet that says Astra Zenaca on it.. Its probably written by a Chinese or Russian bot and left for you researchers to find..
But basically you don't believe Chris Witty Etal, JCVI, ONS, Mhra, NHS but do believe some random spread sheet and the spouting of some American imbecile making millions selling snake oil.
Give it a rest GI. You are just being silly.
Just look at statistics for ICU occupation. An unvaccinated person is 5 times more likely to end up on ICU and 8 times more likely to need intubation. (stats from ONS around ICU occupation, check them)
I wonder how many on ICU wish they has had vaccine. Pop down to your own ICU, speak to nurses leaving. If they don'tmake you see sense, nobody will.

 

[guerney]

Doug Ericksen, state senator who fought vaccine mandates, dies at 52

Washington Republican and Trump supporter who opposed pandemic emergency orders said he tested positive for Covid in El Salvador

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zlatan]

The trouble with all conspiracy theories is they are impossible to disprove. You can't prove something does not exist or didn't happen. Said it before, but one of my grandkids is convinced a monster lives under his bed. I can show him there is nothing there but as soon as light goes out it's there... In his head, but not under the bed.

 

[GLJoe]

Obviously I am incompetent ..or the original download was truncated.

As I even provided a screengrab from the pdf showing the total, everything indeed points to incompetence on your part.

 

[Zlatan]

Vaccine effects. (actual)




Quoting my age group.
Hospital admissions per 100,000 dropped from 509 to 87..
That reoresents an 83% reduction in hospital admissions for my age..
Putting that in perspective... Instead of let's say 100 people going to hospital with covid 17 went... Actual figures.
The figures of those on intubation and those that died reflect same ratio in post vaccination reductions.

 

[Danidl]

Mmm. So you accept you are offering a conspiracy theory.. Perhaps one with slightly more merit than flat earthers but they are equally convinced GI.
The "evidence" you offered about vaccine deaths is simply some spread sheet that says Astra Zenaca on it.. Its probably written by a Chinese or Russian bot and left for you researchers to find..
But basically you don't believe Chris Witty Etal, JCVI, ONS, Mhra, NHS but do believe some random spread sheet and the spouting of some American imbecile making millions selling snake oil.
Give it a rest GI. You are just being silly.
Just look at statistics for ICU occupation. An unvaccinated person is 5 times more likely to end up on ICU and 8 times more likely to need intubation. (stats from ONS around ICU occupation, check them)
I wonder how many on ICU wish they has had vaccine. Pop down to your own ICU, speak to nurses leaving. If they don'tmake you see sense, nobody will.

Agree

 

[GLJoe]

Mmm. So you accept you are offering a conspiracy theory.

No, I am presenting information that for whatever reason, OTHER people are claiming to be one of many conspiracy theories.

The "evidence" you offered about vaccine deaths is simply some spread sheet that says Astra Zenaca on it.. Its probably written by a Chinese or Russian bot and left for you researchers to find..

Er ... if you would bother to look, the 'spread sheet' comes from:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/

...

Hint. The .gov.uk is a bit of a giveaway. Its official Uk government data!
If I'm wrong on that, please explain how that's the case.

 

[oyster]

Near-current MHRA vaccine reporting:

Coronavirus vaccine - summary of Yellow Card reporting

www.gov.uk

Do bear in mind how strongly reporting has been encouraged - by the whole vaccination program as well as media. I very much hope the whole idea of doing Yellow Card reports has become better known and more deeply embedded in our minds.

 

[oyster]

The trouble with all conspiracy theories is they are impossible to disprove. You can't prove something does not exist or didn't happen. Said it before, but one of my grandkids is convinced a monster lives under his bed. I can show him there is nothing there but as soon as light goes out it's there... In his head, but not under the bed.

Another trouble is that we seem to be expected to spend much time reading and working our way through each and every theory. While some are immediately risible, others take a bit, or a lot, more effort.

Sorry, but I have plenty of other health issues to research and work on. Indeed, amazingly, we appear to be on the cusp of a major upset of around sixty years of practice.

Another factor is that vaccines are here today, gone tomorrow. In no time, current vaccines will be replaced. Whereas what I care much more about, people take sometimes for their entire lives. The effect of even relatively minor issues, compounded by 365 doses a year, for sixty or more years, can be huge.

 

[GLJoe]

You just will not respond to facts and data will you?.

I have indeed responded with facts and data. It just appears that you, by your own admission, are too incompetent to take them on board.

Just to make it simple when half the entire worlds population 8000 Million have received the vaccine , it is NOT AT TRIAL it is the real deal.

The number of doses administered is irrelevant.
All the vaccines used had to have EUA - emergency use authorization - to allow them to be utilised while still being trialed. The rollout IS part of the trial.
Just the fact that the accelerated rollout of a previously untested method means that there cannot at this time be any long term data, tells us it HAS to still be in what is considered a trial period.

Now back to your nonsense about trials and procedures being abandoned at 50 deaths ... I have undergone 3 times in the last year a medical procedure with a KNOWN mortality rate off 3% . Since it is carried out routinely in my hospital about 10 times a day, 6 days a week and there are similar theatres in every major city on the planet, ... A million per year in the USA alone. The number of deaths per annum is a lot more than 50

I wrote:
"These 'vaccines' have already caused more deaths and adverse reactions, than ALL other vaccinations COMBINED, since records began!!!
And in every other previous medical trial (and lets not forget - this is still a trial!), when the death toll gets up to around 50 people, the trial is immediately halted and the vaccines withdrawn. We are now ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE past this figure"

You can see I'm specifically talking about vaccine trials. I stand by that statement. I've provided links earlier on that backs it up. Now you prove to me I'm wrong.

Your comment on a medical procedure with a 3% mortality rate is irrelevant in this context. If a person has say only a 50% chance of survival with no treatment, then of course a procedure with a known 3% mortality rate is going to win a risk benefit analysis. But that isn't what was discussed so don't be so manipulative (or incompetent!) as to try and conflate the two.

 

[oldgroaner]

Fortunately for me (unfortunately for you), here is an article posted only yesterday that backs up all the statements I made a week or so ago. Written by experts in the field. With doctorates. And this article conveniently has citations and a reference list at the end for you to check yourself.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/12/19/vaers-covid-data.aspx

After listening to them buttering each other up and generally waffling I lost the will to live and gave up after several tedious minutes, presumably they did eventually have some wisdom to impart?

 

[oldgroaner]

My Windows computer hasn't crashed since I got vaxxed - the deep state play a long game, Windows has been waiting decades for all those tiny microchips to form a mesh AI co-processor all this time... but it's fully functioning and perfect now.

At last I understand why our cat can read my mind and get me to act as it's slave, it was microchipped years before me, and taken over my microchip to control me.
The first thought in a morning and last at night is
"Feed the cat"

 

[oyster]

this is still a trial!

Technically, they are conditionally approved in the UK. (At least, AstraZeneca and Pfizer.)

 

[soundwave]

After listening to them buttering each other up and generally waffling I lost the will to live and gave up after several tedious minutes, presumably they did eventually have some wisdom to impart?

adr from 2021 for all other vaccines was 39k for covid alone it was 675k.

 

[soundwave]

 

[Danidl]

As I even provided a screengrab from the pdf showing the total, everything indeed points to incompetence on your part.


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The 1138 figure is utterly questionable ..in the 100+ page second link I got, it seems to list every conceivable medical condition ..including those which have absolutely no possible effect ..like inheritance , congenital anomalies..and that is perfect sense in a trawling excercise. ..one includes everything . Now consider the real fact that there is now 8000 Million of these doses already administered , and there are not the deaths you ascribe to them . This is not a trial it is deployment.