Brexit, for once some facts.

guerney

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My loft is much more insulated - if you can't purchase loo rolls, these are awful; barely adequate, bit rough, plentiful and cheap:

 
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Woosh

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Only the very weak of mind present one dismissable 'conspiracy theory' as evidence to disprove all other 'conspiracy theories'
Yellow cards are only the raw material, you can use them for detecting relative trends but can't count the number of deaths following the jabs as solid evidence of vaccines causing deaths, same with government counting deaths within 28 days as covid deaths.
I think the government has accepted 74 deaths resulted from the vaccines, the rest are still being investigated.
 
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oyster

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Yellow cards are only the raw material, you can use them for detecting relative trends but can't count the number of deaths following the jabs as solid evidence of vaccines causing deaths, same with government counting deaths within 28 days as covid deaths.
I think the government has accepted 74 deaths resulted from the vaccines, the rest are still being investigated.
A lot of the Yellow Card reports are self-reports (i.e. by patients) - which, in itself, is great.

It has pluses - might have lots of repetitious, minor effects. And minuses - won't collect deaths.

Never before has there been a special website for reporting a small range of medicines. Never before has there been such encouragement, by media including "social media", and official sources, to put in reports. This was not a feature of, say, the 1960s polio campaign, the numerous influenza campaigns over most recent years, etc.
 

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I am surprised that the public rated Sunak so highly.
He is remembered for 'eat out to help out', borrowing 400 billions and stupidly lent billions to fraudsters without a single check nor collateral.
He's hardly better than the rest of BJ's cabinet.
 

Zlatan

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I am surprised that the public rated Sunak so highly.
He is remembered for 'eat out to help out', borrowing 400 billions and stupidly lent billions to fraudsters without a single check nor collateral.
He's hardly better than the rest of BJ's cabinet.
Wait till we, ve all partied over Christmas, no lockdown and Omicron not so bad....
Tory papers will be full of cavalry (vaccine) arriving in nick of time and Boris managed his shoot for the moon 1 million per day boosters.. His popularity graph will be steeper than Omicron's spreading one.
It's all arranged..???
 
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Wait till we, ve all partied over Christmas, no lockdown and Omicron not so bad....
Tory papers will be full of cavalry (vaccine) arriving in nick of time and Boris managed his shoot for the moon 1 million per day boosters.. His popularity graph will be steeper than Omicron's spreading one.
It's all arranged..???
Apparently, they have already arranged for another booster for the aged in the new year. The shot only gives about 3 months worth of protection and people in my age group (most of whom would vote tory) had our booster last September/October.
Trust me on this, another shot will annoy millions of tory voters. KS won't have to do anything other than railing at BJ for lack of leadership at PMQs. BJ is now a sitting duck.
He will be gone by the summer and the new tory Mrs T. is going to take over!
 

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The shot only gives about 3 months worth of protection and people in my age group (most of whom would vote tory) had our booster last September/October.
Trust me on this, another shot will annoy millions of tory voters.
Not just Tory voters, I think the majority of the public. Huge numbers like me had a real struggle to even get a booster since the organisation was such a shambles compared to the previous jabs.

No more for me and that is final until the pharma companies come up with something very much better, i.e. more effective at preventing infection and that for at least a year.
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GLJoe

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After listening to them buttering each other up and generally waffling I lost the will to live and gave up after several tedious minutes, presumably they did eventually have some wisdom to impart?
Yes, I agree that in trying to avoid the automatic "that person is a quack and is totally unqualified ..." type of response that many people seem to spew out without a moments critical appraisal, many video's these days to have to start out with effectively a recital of the person being interviewed CV! and it can get a bit tiresome. However I cut them some slack because I realise its a hoop they have to jump though to establish credibility (and boy! that Dr Jessica Rose sure seems to be a smart cookie! multiple post grad qualifications in all the areas needed to sieve thorough this data!!)

Fortunately though, the video wasn't something that HAD to be watched. In fact, what I actually wrote was "here is an article posted... " , not "here is a video...", so all you had to do was read the text of the article.
In fact, those articles on the Mercola site seem to have anticipated some people are unwilling or incapable of reading lengthy text, so they even provide a brief TLDR type synopsis at the very start!

Even more fortunately (as the original article has now been pulled), I have a copy of the PDF downloaded as it does indeed contain some very interesting information. Here is the brief synopsis:

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Zlatan

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Apparently, they have already arranged for another booster for the aged in the new year. The shot only gives about 3 months worth of protection and people in my age group (most of whom would vote tory) had our booster last September/October.
Trust me on this, another shot will annoy millions of tory voters. KS won't have to do anything other than railing at BJ for lack of leadership at PMQs. BJ is now a sitting duck.
He will be gone by the summer and the new tory Mrs T. is going to take over!
Time will tell.
Boris must have had enough now anyway.. Love him or hate him he has had a pretty awful time.. He, s got enough cash to walk away, write books or take up painting like his hero...
Think thing we agree on is his "popularity" pretty much correlates with success or failure of this 3rd booster...
But on that... I, d willingly have a fourth shot... But not sure that's a common stance... I don't think we will have an omnivariant jab for at least 18months... And probably not at all..??
I do wonder how much protection people have against Delta post an Omicron infection..??

On another topic...
Just had yamaha motor rebuilt at Performance line bearings(ebike motor Centre) with new bearings, plastic gear assembly, and seals etc etc.. Its back in bike and works like new..
Company were fantastic. Fast turnaround, friendly, knowledgable and good prices.
 
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I am surprised that the public rated Sunak so highly.
He is remembered for 'eat out to help out', borrowing 400 billions and stupidly lent billions to fraudsters without a single check nor collateral.
He's hardly better than the rest of BJ's cabinet.
He’s an arse-hole trying to buy the keys to Number 10 with public money.
 
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