Agreed about Gove, but I was referring to Sajid Javid. a much steadier hand.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Just saw a comment about the tories being lucky to have such depths of talent to choose a successor to Hancock from. Depths, yes, the tories plumb and inhabit them. Just how low did Hancock go?
Depth of talent, certainly not, the 10 I listed (2.8%) are hardly depth out of 363 Tory MPs in the Commons. More the shallow end!
But one of them could do fine as Health Minister.
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A sympathetic view would be that the Tories have an unfortunate knack to create ever bigger, more public **** ups. A less kind view, that they are and have been scamming the electorate, and realised, to their joy, that the average voter is even denser than they could possibly have hoped. And so are pushing the boat out ever further. Who knows what hancock would have tried to get away with if it weren't for the CCTV (the private email address being the tip of the ice berg). And what all of his tory colleagues are getting away with
Well they are both human and animal like all of us, and like almost all of us if we find ourselves at the top of the herd, make the most of it. We even justify it with polite sayings like "Make hay while the sun shines", also "Strike while the iron is hot" and "Opportunity knocks but once". All double entendres for taking advantage.
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A rather unfortunate headline in the Guardian
Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated
Fancy exposing the thinking processes of the average Brexit fan with that!
Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated
Fancy exposing the thinking processes of the average Brexit fan with that!
The article gets even better, exposing that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated has the risk of death of an unvaccinated person of around 50.
Enough to make them think, why did I bother to get the vaccines?
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I don't think it's quite the same parameters. If, in a shared private practice, I set up a separate email address to conduct business on behalf of it away from my associates scrutiny and used it to appoint an assistant for 1k/day whom I proceeded to shag on the premises during business hours. And were found out. And told them it was a storm in a teacup and they should get over it (and my subcontracting significant part of the practices business to her brother), I wouldn't blame them for considering me a worrying psychopath and reporting me to the hcpc
That's what I posted. The parameter always being what we can get away with to suit our personal desires.
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But it's not what I said. We are all compromised. but it's not all barely contained expedience and narcissistic self gratification. That's a bit too nihilistic.
I have to disagree.
Remember that power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and government is absolute power. It only needs some to lead the way and corruption spreads like wildfire.
Remember the expenses scandal? A few in the Commons started that long ago and it soon spread across the House through all parties, with even the House of Lords joining in and trumping the Commons in the extent and scope of the fiddling.
Many MPs even stated the fiddling was actually to compensate for their renumeration not keeping pace, thus absolving themselves of guilt. A perfect example of how corruption becomes institutionalised and practiced by all as being normal.
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When the man at the top has all kinds of personal floors (basically a mini Trump) then it is hardly surprising that people at the top of Government will think they can get away with anything.
I mentioned the other day that a GP that my wife knows had come down with Covid, even though he had had both jabs, did you see the Marr programme this morning?The article gets even better, exposing that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated has the risk of death of an unvaccinated person of around 50.
Enough to make them think, why did I bother to get the vaccines?
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Andrew Marr said that he had just got over a bout of Covid, he thinks he probably caught it at the G7 meeting a few weeks ago. He also had both jabs, and said he had the vaccines in the very early days (I think he would come under the at risk due to health problems category). So like the GP I mentioned we are probably talking of about 6 months or so since he was vaccinated.
Marr went on to say that although he did not go to Hospital, he was really quite ill, and if he had got a bit worse he would have needed to go in. He also wondered if he was just unlucky and was just one of the ones that the vaccine hasn't worked that well, or were the effects of the vaccine starting to wear off and that's why he caught the disease.
I think the next couple of months are going to be interesting in particular when we open up completely which I think we are likely to do. I'm wondering if perhaps instead of a booster shot after 12 months we might need to consider a booster after 6 months. Or perhaps a 6 month booster for the over 60s or 70s, what do the rest of you think?
But is one going to be available?
I agree about the timescale that is, really, required. It has taken - realistically - well over six months to reach where we are. A few before New Year, but by almost all from January to now. We need a booster, if there is going to be one, asap if the Marr story holds water.
If an updated vaccine provdes current protection plus the effect of a booster, that might be helpful in achieving coverage. At least it removes those yet to be vaccinated from thos needing a booster.
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I don't think even the threat of gruesome death can do much to motivate Brexit voters, they only appear to have the facility to face reality posthumouslyThe article gets even better, exposing that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated has the risk of death of an unvaccinated person of around 50.
Enough to make them think, why did I bother to get the vaccines?
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Truly sorry to hear that, let's hope for the best for him