Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

The electorate understand perfectly what's going on.

Glad the OP went well. Was even gladder you confused me with Danny (was preparing some Irish insults when some helpful local bastards outed me).
Reread your last line above (no, I mean really reread it). What does the average voter look like? I know a few: above sixty, well off, so not want to pay inheritance tax but want great social care; a local plumber who's on benefit, doing work on the side, not very well, charging outrageous, desperate to prevent immigration to stop competent workers coming in and blowing his cover.
I could go on - self serving, hypocritical, unenlightened would be euphemistic. And they've been fed unenlightened lies by politicians about having the good life and someone else paying Maggie's raid on the welfare states social housing, Gordon brown's on pension funds. They want Scandinavian levels of health and social care and education while paying American levels of tax. Of course Corbyn and Macdonalds manifesto of development and redistribution wouldn't wash. And boris's would. But reality has a way of exposing lies.
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Fair points... But not stupid or conditioned electorate.
And Boris represents highest tax, furthest left Tory government in history.. Agreed, without doubt, this government has its faults.
But however you assess it Labour are neither representing or attracting electorate.

 

[oldgroaner]

People who disagree with you, Labour or whatever, are labelled as conditioned or stupid. The electorate are neither.

You were doing well till that bit when it is utterly obvious I'm right, there is no other possible explanation other than them being stupid and not conditioned.

 

[oldgroaner]

Comment on the news value of the PM's wedding

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1398726690969468936

 

[oldgroaner]

Dis needs reprotin’ ta da Babylon mon. But they ain’t gonna do nuffin’ ‘less ya jive. No what am sayin’

(Sorry, I’ve just spent a few days in London and I seem to have picked up some of the quaint local dialect.)

Have you been drinking the beer down there?

 

[oyster]

I think we know why Johnson missed all those Cobra meetings - and much else. Having become RC, he had to go to confession - which took an awfully long time...

 

[Zlatan]

You were doing well till that bit when it is utterly obvious I'm right, there is no other possible explanation other than them being stupid and not conditioned.

Yet, keep it up OG. I don't mind Johnson/Tories in no10.
Amazing you claim higher intellect for none Tory voters, Jonathon claims higher moral ground... Then both wonder why Johnson stays..
And BTW, was looking at voting patterns from various groups other day. One looked at Union membership... Turns out 67% of Union membership last election voted.... Tory..., probably not as ironic as it seems with such a low turnout but telling none the less.
Stupid immoral voters.

 

[Woosh]

All those stupid, conditioned people will just vote for Boris, not for merit but to not vote for people seeing them as such.
You can't label people as stupid, conditioned, misled or needing political education without alienating them. It's obvious really OG.
Its actually the height of stupidity to think you can get people to agree with your line of thought, your policies or politics, get them to vote for you by calling them names or labelling them. It's exactly what labour are trying to do and you typify why it isn't working.

some recent studies show that ABC1 vote Labour and C2DE vote tories.
The middle ground of Labour votes has changed a lot since MT de-industrialised the country.

 

[flecc]

And BTW, was looking at voting patterns from various groups other day. One looked at Union membership... Turns out 67% of Union membership last election voted.... Tory...,

some recent studies show that ABC1 vote Labour and C2DE vote tories.
The middle ground of Labour votes has changed a lot since MT de-industrialised the country.

Indeed, the majority of our Trade Union members are white collar rather than blue collar these days.

The name trade union is a misnomer now, office workers and other white collar employees are not tradespeople.
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[Jesus H Christ]

Have you been drinking the beer down there?

No, some of the new London language that is squeezing out cockney has rubbed off on me.

During the whole time I was in London I never saw a single Pearly King or Queen and not one child chimney sweep. It’s disgusting what’s happening down there.

 

[flecc]

During the whole time I was in London I never saw a single Pearly King or Queen and not one child chimney sweep. It’s disgusting what’s happening down there.

No Pearlies during lockdown, but see this link from 2019

Clean Air Act and zones means no fires, so no chimneys to be swept.

Children banned from working, it's all about Human Rights and Human Riots here now.
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[Jesus H Christ]

No Pearlies during lockdown, but see this link from 2019

Clean Air Act and zones means no fires, so no chimneys to be swept.

Children banned from working, it's all about Human Rights and Human Riots here now.
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There’s some very fine embroidery, the like of which I’ve never seen, in those costumes.

 

[oldgroaner]

Stupid immoral voters.

Well said

 

[flecc]

Well said

Who is Well and why did he say Stupid immoral voters?
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[oldgroaner]

At last the Daily Mail is doing Science again

"The new paper, as reported by the Daily Mail, mentions there are 4 positively charged amino acids in a row, which it claims defies the laws of physics, and thus is man-made.
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But as others have pointed out, even man-made things must obey the laws of physics.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

At last the Daily Mail is doing Science again

"The new paper, as reported by the Daily Mail, mentions there are 4 positively charged amino acids in a row, which it claims defies the laws of physics, and thus is man-made.
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But as others have pointed out, even man-made things must obey the laws of physics.

Four positively charged amino acids in a row is a phenomenon found exclusively in synthetic substances. There is no doubt that the filthy little bastards are guilty and this finding supports that conclusion.

 

[oldgroaner]

Who is Well and why did he say Stupid immoral voters?
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He must have read Zlatan's post!

 

[oldgroaner]

Four positively charged amino acids in a row is a phenomenon found exclusively in synthetic substances. There is no doubt that the filthy little bastards are guilty and this finding supports that conclusion.

I think you missed the point somewhat!

 

[oldgroaner]

Re Johnson's idea for a new Royal Yacht from a Westminster insider
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Larry the Cat@Number10cat
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Makes me wonder which cabinet minister has a friend from university whose pedalo manufacturing company is about to land a £200m contract for a luxury yacht

 

[Jesus H Christ]

I think you missed the point somewhat!

What about the perpetual motion machine I built in my shed? That’s man made and it defies the laws of physics. It also supplies the neighbourhood with free electricity.

 

[oyster]

Re Johnson's idea for a new Royal Yacht from a Westminster insider
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Larry the Cat@Number10cat
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Makes me wonder which cabinet minister has a friend from university whose pedalo manufacturing company is about to land a £200m contract for a luxury yacht

Makes me wonder why Johnson is short-changing the Windsors - and the "friends" - who are expected to make use of this thing.

https://www.atlasmarinesystems.com/most-expensive-yachts/

The very least expensive in that list isn't far off in terms of cost. But you can bet your bottom dollar that this one will be equipped with some fancy military kit, comms, etc. That alone will cost many millions. So its actual end price will be well up the list.

Also, where cometh the running costs? RYA Britannia had a complement of 250 (not sure if they were all permanently assigned) which represents a sizeable cost.