I realize this is a circular argument and we've been round this roundabout a number of times. But here goes. Think about the critical juncture that preceded political change in the past. Iraq, the 08 crisis, black Wednesday. It's the same this time. Were waiting for the denial to wear off. For the government to kill a few hunded thousand more through negligence. Clearly the average conservative voter need more than the usual amount of remedial teaching. But happily boris seem quite adept at serving it up.
That's almost a fair point but still hints at the same problem OG and much of left wing currently has...
What you are saying is, if you support Boris /Tories (or Brexit) you demonstrate a deficiency in some area, possibly misinformed, probably lacking understanding, certainly at will of a corrupt media and inhabit a lower moral ground... Whereas yourselves and Labour and or remainers are none of these. You assume a better understanding, less misled by media and generally an assumption of higher intellect. We see it all the time from left wing on here, the Guardian and unfortunately much of the influential people within current Labour.
Simple fact Danidl none of the above is true, we are all influenced to a similar extent by media and no one has a monopoly on better morals or a better idea of what we should be doing. But unfortunately this condescending attitude seen in our current left wing has driven millions away. This attitude of yours, OG's and Labour is exactly why red wall collapsed. Folk are sick of being told "electorate don't understand what they voted for" Sick of being told they don't hold the woke high moral ground demonstrated by so many Labour "leaders". So they think "feck you, I, ll show you" and vote accordingly. That gave us Brexit and its keeping your anti hero in power.
Like I explained to OG, even after 7 hours of Cummings revelations, page and page of anti Boris propoganda in media, after all the deaths, the PPE scandal and the puppet Hancock, Boris gained in opinion polls.
Agreed, it could be short lived, but how many more years are Labour and its devout supporters like you and OG going to wait. Next year, next election, next decade, next millennium.
The electorate do not need political education as Labour seem to think. They don't need more information or to ignore propoganda. Labour need to change to the electorate, and not the other way around. If they do not, we will have Tories indefinitely. Come on Jonathon how much worse could Tories perform? Objectively Tories should be at a record low. In power, dangerous revelations, inept ministers, wasted funds, hints of corruption, yet they ride a crest of wave. Now ask yourself why? Then read Guardian, OG's posts, your posts and think how people feel when told they don't understand.
It ain't rocket science Jonathon. It's simple human nature.
The less woke, the more none PC, the more deshevelled, the more confused messaging Boris gives... The more popular he will become. Its an anti vote. Against everything Labour are standing for today. Including Corbyn, Blair, Starmer, Unite, Mcdonnell, Abott and McCluskey.
The electorate understand perfectly what's going on.
