Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Boris Johnson has said the UK's destiny "now resides firmly in our hands"

Who's hands would that be? certainly not those of the public, nor of Parliament either

Tell us who is pulling your chain Boris!
 
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Boris Johnson has said the UK's destiny "now resides firmly in our hands"

Who's hands would that be? certainly not those of the public, nor of Parliament either

Tell us who is pulling your chain Boris!
Speaking of holding things in hands:
I hold your hand in mine, dear​
I press it to my lips​
I take a healthy bite from​
Your lovely fingertips​
My joy would be complete, dear​
If you were only here​
But still I keep your hand​
As a lovely souvenir​

Has he turned the UK into a grand souvenir shop? (We even have to use a French word for souvenir...)
 

Zlatan

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Speaking of holding things in hands:
I hold your hand in mine, dear​
I press it to my lips​
I take a healthy bite from​
Your lovely fingertips​
My joy would be complete, dear​
If you were only here​
But still I keep your hand​
As a lovely souvenir​

Has he turned the UK into a grand souvenir shop? (We even have to use a French word for souvenir...)
Reminds me of George Bush Jnr's comment about French..
"they don't have a word for 'entrepreneur'"

Bet it's made up..

Barry is taking stick on my behalf. Danidl thought my post jingoistic... Not his..
Perhaps was, wasn't intended.
Its not first time Barry has stuck his head above parapet to be shot at, its noted and appreciated.
Thought I didn't need to point out Oxford/Astra Zeneca was an extremely diverse (with respect to race) group, with Belgian, Danish, British, Indian, German, Irish and no doubt other backgrounds in their make up, along with I believe over 50% females employed, and I believe a female over seeing entire project.
Trust Danidl to highlight the "Dubliner".. Irony..
 
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I suggest we need a new approach to political statements:

Gavin Williamson 'absolutely confident' schools will be ready for mass testing

Education secretary says he is sure secondaries will be ready with extra week to prepare

OK - so he makes that claim - or any other claim. There should be a mechanism whereby he can place that claim into some sort of public secure location. And, at the appropriate time, if he was wrong, he is automatically sacked. No ifs, no buts.

If he refuses to lodge the claim, it gets dismissed as meaningless waffle. (Probably right for GW all the time.) But if he demands we take it seriously, he will be forced to lodge the claim.

Obviously, this process would need careful consideration of the words used. Because they could come back and bite. Which would be a Good Thing. Not just headline-grabbing.
 

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At 84 I still haven't heard, despite them saying almost a month ago the doctors were already setting up for it and we'd be contacted within days.
My 78 year old brother was surprised to be contacted by his surgery (Oxford) and offered a jab a couple of week ago, second jab coming up next week or so. Just round the corner for him. No special conditions. I've been contacted (73, Winchester) just to say I will be contacted in due course and it will be a mile away (very nice ride on the ebike).

I guess it's just a matter of luck. Not sure if it is random luck; or luck based on where friends of the government live?
 

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Somehow teachers will have to do remote learning lessons, teach the vulnerable, key worker and exam year kids coming in, and administer covid tests.

Also confusion reigns with CTers not 'wanting soldiers jabbing their kids' - had to ask if they undertood the difference between testing and vaccination. But it does seem army will be acting as consultants over the phone rather than deployed into schools! Also it seems secondary schools will be asking kids to self-administer tests.
 
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Somehow teachers will have to do remote learning lessons, teach the vulnerable, key worker and exam year kids coming in, and administer covid tests.

Also confusion reigns with CTers not 'wanting soldiers jabbing their kids' - had to ask if they undertood the difference between testing and vaccination. But it does seem army will be acting as consultants over the phone rather than deployed into schools! Also it seems secondary schools will be asking kids to self-administer tests.
Luckily teachers were only working 22 hours a day before this, so the should be able to fit in 2 extra hours admin, jabbing etc, be more efficient in the 22 to cut it to 21, and still have a free hour every day for sleep, family time, etc.
 
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My 78 year old brother was surprised to be contacted by his surgery (Oxford) and offered a jab a couple of week ago, second jab coming up next week or so. Just round the corner for him. No special conditions. I've been contacted (73, Winchester) just to say I will be contacted in due course and it will be a mile away (very nice ride on the ebike).

I guess it's just a matter of luck. Not sure if it is random luck; or luck based on where friends of the government live?
I, ve been pleasantly surprised at numbers around us (Rotherham) that were vaccinated initially. Think it's slowed somewhat now (awaiting 2nd jab?) but hopefully now AZ is coming on line things should get moving.
Quite a few nurses live on our street (and since lockdown we, ve had a great WhatsApp group for perhaps 80 people) two of whom have been involved with training over past 2 weeks or so for vaccine roll out. They believe they are starting next Wednesday??
 
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I guess it's just a matter of luck. Not sure if it is random luck; or luck based on where friends of the government live?
In my case it's gross inefficiency. We were the first of the 50 designated centres in the country to get the Pfizer vaccine and now a very high priority heavily infected area. so there's no excuse.
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My 78 year old brother was surprised to be contacted by his surgery (Oxford) and offered a jab a couple of week ago, second jab coming up next week or so. Just round the corner for him. No special conditions. I've been contacted (73, Winchester) just to say I will be contacted in due course and it will be a mile away (very nice ride on the ebike).
My wife had the Pfizer vaccine yesterday she is a front line health worker. She said it was less painful than the flu vaccine but this morning her arm feels like someone has punched it really hard. Her team were all vaccinated yesterday and they all have the punched in the arm feeling today. She has been told that this pain is quite normal and should fade away in a day or two.
 

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My 78 year old brother was surprised to be contacted by his surgery (Oxford) and offered a jab a couple of week ago, second jab coming up next week or so. Just round the corner for him. No special conditions. I've been contacted (73, Winchester) just to say I will be contacted in due course and it will be a mile away (very nice ride on the ebike).

I guess it's just a matter of luck. Not sure if it is random luck; or luck based on where friends of the government live?
There have been zero Pfizer/BioNTech vaccinations here - in Pembrokeshire.

Anyone allocated one has to go to Carmarthenshire.

(Just started heavy hail/sleet.)
 
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My wife had the Pfizer vaccine yesterday she is a front line health worker. She said it was less painful than the flu vaccine but this morning her arm feels like someone has punched it really hard. Her team were all vaccinated yesterday and they all have the punched in the arm feeling today. She has been told that this pain is quite normal and should fade away in a day or two.
I've often felt pain is largely a function of skill.

A lot of people I am in contact with either get blood drawn regularly or have frequent injections. Why blood draws vary so much is a mystery - after all, there is nothing going in! Simply must be a combination of variability in the individual and/or skill of phlebotomist.

The most regular recipients are those who self-inject (usually vitamin B12). There is some variation between products. But warming the ampoule to blood temperature, choosing the best needle, and injecting slowly are key.

But, I think the Pfizer vaccine must not be warm (though rather higher than -70C :) )
 
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I've often felt pain is largely a function of skill.

A lot of people I am in contact with either get blood drawn regularly or have frequent injections. Why blood draws vary so much is a mystery - after all, there is nothing going in! Simply must be a combination of variability in the individual and/or skill of phlebotomist.

The most regular recipients are those who self-inject (usually vitamin B12). There is some variation between products. But warming the ampoule to blood temperature, choosing the best needle, and injecting slowly are key.

But, I think the Pfizer vaccine must not be warm (though rather higher than -70C :) )
Both agree and disagree, the site of a vaccination is usually painful or at least sore a day or two after injection.. irrespective of the skill of administration, but clumsy technique just makes it worst. I have two arms ..in itself not unusual, but nobody ever succeeds in drawing blood from my right side. However there is never or rarely a problem from my left... Always caused a problem when I gave blood transfusions, because the kit is usually set up on the RHS. I attribute this to an incident where as young man I landed very heavily off the judo mat with the combined weight of myself and my adversery
 
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In my case it's gross inefficiency. We were the first of the 50 designated centres in the country to get the Pfizer vaccine and now a very high priority heavily infected area. so there's no excuse.
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As usual no word at all here in Hull after an initial claim that 1,000 were vaccinated on the first day, but apparently no one knows where this happened!
 
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Remember my earlier post about the small print over ECJ power in the FTA
Incredibly someone at the Excess (sorry Express) has actually bothered themselves to read at least that part


Karma that after him doing the dirty on us all the EU has returned the favour
Happy New Year and Caveat Emptor Boris
AKA "Not a good start Boris" :cool: #

So begins the dissent in the Ranks
 

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