Brexit, for once some facts.

vfr400

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jun 12, 2011
9,822
3,993
Basildon
Is this more government misinformation?

The grooming gang report has finally been released. It's main finding is that the grooming gangs are mainly white. Type into Bing, google or whatever search engine you use "photos of grooming gangs" to see what comes up, then search for "photos of white grooming gangs" and see what comes up. Obviously, select images for the search.

Are the search engines racially biased or is there something weird about the Home Office report?
 

Wicky

Esteemed Pedelecer
Feb 12, 2014
2,823
4,011
Colchester, Essex
www.jhepburn.co.uk
Is this more government misinformation?

The grooming gang report has finally been released. It's main finding is that the grooming gangs are mainly white. Type into Bing, google or whatever search engine you use "photos of grooming gangs" to see what comes up, then search for "photos of white grooming gangs" and see what comes up. Obviously, select images for the search.

Are the search engines racially biased or is there something weird about the Home Office report?
:rolleyes:



 
Last edited:
  • :D
Reactions: oyster

Barry Shittpeas

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 1, 2020
2,325
3,210
Barry, that is exactly how I expected that to play out. I am convinced that the UK has been fudging its numbers for months. The idea that only dates within 28 days of initial diagnosis are counted is bunkum, and was from end of April. The mortality rate is about 3% in normal populations ,when proper diagnosis is done, and hospital facilities are not overcrowded. Expect it to double when they are.
The key market to follow is the USA, where the Thanksgiving Weekend is now playing dividends.. The average death rate was 3000 per day, and last night it got to 3500. At the peak of their early wave it was nearly 1000 per day less .
The problem is now worse in that those medical staff are now burning out, and there are no reserves.
I believe you are right on this one and the situation now is as bad, if not worse, than it has been at any time during 2020. I don't know if we will ever see genuine excess death stats, or if they will be fudged too.

It seems very bizarre that we are in this worsening situation and yet the government have not asked people to cancel the plans to invite up to three different households into their homes over a five day Christmas period. I know it take balls to make that call, and I suspect that is the reason it hasn't been done.

I fear that January is going to be carnage.
 

oyster

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 7, 2017
10,422
14,609
West West Wales
I believe you are right on this one and the situation now is as bad, if not worse, than it has been at any time during 2020. I don't know if we will ever see genuine excess death stats, or if they will be fudged too.

It seems very bizarre that we are in this worsening situation and yet the government have not asked people to cancel the plans to invite up to three different households into their homes over a five day Christmas period. I know it take balls to make that call, and I suspect that is the reason it hasn't been done.

I fear that January is going to be carnage.
Couldn't agree more. And to reinforce your earlier comment about ICU overflowing:

NHS hospitals running out of beds as Covid cases continue to surge

Hospitals in England had to divert patients 44 times last week – the highest number for four years
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/17/nhs-hospitals-running-out-of-beds-as-covid-cases-continue-to-surge
 

Barry Shittpeas

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 1, 2020
2,325
3,210
Well it won't be a food loss since we don't eat what we catch. We'll just lose a little money from not selling them, but far less than the money we'd lose without an agreement.
.
It‘s all mental. Both sides are meeting to try and work how they can make trade more difficult and worse than it is now. That just about sums up the craziness of Brexit.

And why is fish suddenly so very important. Nobody ever thought about fish until about a month ago. The power of the Daily Mail.
 

Woosh

Trade Member
May 19, 2012
20,376
16,875
Southend on Sea
wooshbikes.co.uk
it's just posturing.
We know we need a deal but there have to be two winners and no losers.
The normal way to achieve that is to keep the negotiation out of the front page of the tabloids but brexit is not normal time, so they have to go to the wire to avoid scrutiny.
The UK has already conceded on level playing field. That's the real blow for the billionaires.
 

Barry Shittpeas

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 1, 2020
2,325
3,210
Did any one have one of Sir Walter’s Grifter bikes? I did and it was ace.

The man is a total legend. In addition to inventing the bicycle, he invented fags and shagged the queen.

39785
 
  • Like
Reactions: oldgroaner

Woosh

Trade Member
May 19, 2012
20,376
16,875
Southend on Sea
wooshbikes.co.uk
does anyone follow the Solarwinds security breach?
Microsoft and the entire US administration are at risk, not counting any large organisation using Microsoft products.
This story has a long way to go yet.
 

oldgroaner

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 15, 2015
23,461
32,613
80
does anyone follow the Solarwinds security breach?
Microsoft and the entire US administration are at risk, not counting any large organisation using Microsoft products.
This story has a long way to go yet.
Shades of the old English saying when things go terribly wrong brought bang up to date
"Ah well, the solarwinds were against us!" :cool:
It looks like no software is safe anywhere these days!
 
Last edited:
  • :D
Reactions: oyster

Barry Shittpeas

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 1, 2020
2,325
3,210
Shades of the old English saying when things go terribly wrong brought bang up to date
"Ah well, the solarwinds were against us!" :cool:
It looks like no software is safe anywhere these days!
My energy supplier contacted me yesterday to say their customer accounts had been hacked and the hackers now have my name, date of birth, address and email address. I don’t remember giving the energy company my DoB and why would they need it?

I may need to punish the director for this.
 

Danidl

Esteemed Pedelecer
Sep 29, 2016
8,611
12,256
73
Ireland
My energy supplier contacted me yesterday to say their customer accounts had been hacked and the hackers now have my name, date of birth, address and email address. I don’t remember giving the energy company my DoB and why would they need it?

I may need to punish the director for this.
"remember giving the energy company my DoB and why would they need it?".. It gives them a sense of security, that you are not just a figment of vfrs feverish imagination.
 

Woosh

Trade Member
May 19, 2012
20,376
16,875
Southend on Sea
wooshbikes.co.uk
My energy supplier contacted me yesterday to say their customer accounts had been hacked
that sounds dodgy indeed.
If their customers accounts are hacked, they only need their customers login and change their passwords. There is no reason for wanting any details.
 

Woosh

Trade Member
May 19, 2012
20,376
16,875
Southend on Sea
wooshbikes.co.uk
It looks like no software is safe anywhere these days!
that looks like you said.
Apparently, the hackers tried to piggyback on Microsoft software update to distribute their backdoor code. If they are successful, all the windows PCs may be at their control.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: oyster

oyster

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 7, 2017
10,422
14,609
West West Wales
that looks like you said.
Apparently, the hackers tried to piggyback on Microsoft software update to distribute their backdoors. If they are successful, all the windows PCs may be at their control.
That possibility was one of the arguments against MS' approach from the beginning of Windows Update.

Most especially the way that updates effectively get pushed out.

Far more sensible to allow a slow wave of updates over some time. (Unless there is a special urgency requiring immediate fixing.) Especially if the update can download to your machinem and wait a while before anything else happens. That way, if an update has been compromised, it opens the opportunity of telling all machines on which it has been downloaded not to apply it. OK, maybe hours or days, but you might expect such a major exploit to be detected reasonably quickly.
 

Wicky

Esteemed Pedelecer
Feb 12, 2014
2,823
4,011
Colchester, Essex
www.jhepburn.co.uk
Microsoft have been running around with a broom up their bottom...


Though given the time the hackers have had:

"They may still have access to compromised networks through other means: that’s what incident responders are likely working on now. And there’s no undoing whatever they did while the infiltration went unnoticed for months."
 
  • Agree
  • Informative
Reactions: Woosh and oyster

Advertisers