Brexit, for once some facts.

[Barry Shittpeas]

..We have been there before . Actually without even any evidence it is a simply a witchhunt.
Get a complaint, identify a complainer ,let him write down the evidence. Then investigate that complaint bring the evidence to court ..that is the best antidote . The counting centres have already claimed they are fine. We have had 5 years of innuendo of deep state BS . And Zero evidence. The honour of tens of thousands of civil servants is being impugned ..
On the suspicion that a known lier and cheat did not get re-elected. Barry ,I understand the role of devils advocate, but you are overegging it.

No, you’ve got it all arse about face. The complainant does not provide the evidence.

Here is an example of how the process works; Say that a person is the victim of a robbery. The victim does not collect evidence and then take it to the police, which is what you are suggesting. The victim makes a complaint of robbery, it’s the authorities job to investigate that complaint and uncover evidence to 1) prove that the offence has actually taken place, 2) identify the suspect 3) prove that the suspect is guilty.

Likening the above to the suspected electoral fraud in the USA. Trump is at the stage of walking into the police station and saying I’ve been robbed. The authorities can’t ignore that. The complaint may be malicious, it may be a diversionary tactic, or it might have credibility.

Is there grounds for suspicion? Yes. The actions taken at some polling counts seems suspicious.

Is there any evidence? I’d say no.

Is there any reason to investigate? Yes, suspicion exists, so an investigation is essential to explain away the suspicions activity as either innocent or part of a larger crime.

This is basic stuff. Why don’t you understand it?

 

[Wicky]

Humphrey Bogart should play Trump if a movie was made - and they could use Votes or Unicorns instead of Strawberries

 

[Danidl]

This is shocking:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1326220987608621056

The gist of it is that these very highly reputed and qualified guys have analysed voting data in Michigan. The data pattern shows conclusively that an algorithm was applied to the computerised vote counting.

As you can see from the patterns in the two counties at the top of the picture below, the more the constituencies voted Republican, the more they less Trump votes were counted, which isn't what you'd expect. You could make any theory why that might happen, but the problem is that in the counties where they didn't use computer counting, the distribution doesn't show that pattern. Instead it shoes a horizontal line, which is what you'd expect as shown in the lower image.

It's worth watching the full video for the full explanation. There are other facts revealed in the video that give plausibility to what these guys are saying. They claim that they're not partisan in any way towards Dems or Republicans.
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Hee NO. the simple fact is that there is a full paper trail. . No the US voters did not reject the GoP , they came out and voted more in favour of Biden. you cannot take previous election data as indicative. 4 years ago trump was a hope, now he is known. The fact that more people voted this time around for both sides is indicative.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Fur is very popular in Russia. Always has been , might be the weather ..who knew?.

and of course there is fuckall else available to keep us warm apart from skinning live animals who want to do nothing more than stay alive? You are a ******* sickness. Who knew?

 

[Woosh]

Hmmmm! Quoting from the Daily Beast.

I read the article in thee Daily Beast.
It seems clear to me that Trump and his followers decided to believe anything that may save their campaign.

 

[Danidl]

No, you’ve got it all arse about face. The complainant does not provide the evidence.

Here is an example of how the process works; Say that a person is the victim of a robbery. The victim does not collect evidence and then take it to the police, which is what you are suggesting. The victim makes a complaint of robbery, it’s the authorities job to investigate that complaint and uncover evidence to 1) prove that the offence has actually taken place, 2) identify the suspect 3) prove that the suspect is guilty.

Likening the above to the suspected electoral fraud in the USA. Trump is at the stage of walking into the police station and saying I’ve been robbed. The authorities can’t ignore that. The complaint may be malicious, it may be a diversionary tactic, or it might have credibility.

Is there grounds for suspicion? Yes. The actions taken at some polling counts seems suspicious.

Is there any evidence? I’d say no.

Is there any reason to investigate? Yes, suspicion exists, so an investigation is essential to explain away the suspicions activity as either innocent or part of a larger crime.

This is basic stuff. Why don’t you understand it?

Lets go back a stage.
A person had a lump of money in their pocket in the morning . at the end of the day it is missing.
Now. the first thing they do is look and see if there is a hole, in the pocket. then they might count up the things they bought and if they bought nothing and there is no hole .. then they suspect a robbery.
They then go to the police and say, .. the dodgy guy on the street , or the attractive woman chatted me up for a while . Or they might be very obvious and say. this big bloke tripped me up and his mates emptied my pockets ///.
In the police station , they then ask details like what colour stripped pullover was the bloke .they then search for the bloke or the girl or the pub .. In other words the test his responses for plausibility
They do not bother to do anything if the guy claims he had money in the morning and cannot give any reason why it is missing or how it could be missing ,. Particularly if his only argument is I should not be out of pocket.
So please list the CREDIBLE grounds for suspicion as listed., in any legal complaint.

 

[Nev]

Some bad language in this song, but it's still worth a look just to refresh our minds about what Trump has been up to.

 

[vfr400]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1325462311323246600

 

[Wicky]

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD. Inventor of Email
@va_shiva
Dr.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems.

VFR - Same as this character?

Shiva Ayyadurai - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RossG]

Gotta laugh at what one Trump adviser has just said, that the President wants a re-count of the votes so he can lose twice

 

[SirNigel]

Onwards and upwards for the Donald !!

BREAKING: Decision Desk FINALLY Calls North Carolina For Trump

The media has been doing everything they can to prevent Trump from having another "victory" on the scoreboard, but they have officially caved.
Moments ago, Decision Desk HQ finally called North Carolina for President Donald Trump.
This puts him at 229 electoral votes!
If we can get a few legal wins in the coming weeks, President Trump will be re-elected.

 

[Woosh]

This puts him at 229 electoral votes!
If we can get a few legal wins in the coming weeks, President Trump will be re-elected.

it's expected and not a reversal. Trump led in NC from the first day.
Trump needs to reverse PA (20) and win in AZ (11) and GA (16) where Biden leads in both.

 

[SirNigel]

He spoke as world leaders, including Washington’s close allies Britain and France, already have congratulated President-

There`s approx 195 countries in the world, and he got congratulated by your 9 leaders there, ....senile joe was overcome i`m sure!!

But the best bit, HE had to phone THEM !!!

How embarassing!!

 

[Wicky]

There`s approx 195 countries in the world, and he got congratulated by your 9 leaders there, ....senile joe was overcome i`m sure!!

But the best bit, HE had to phone THEM !!!

How embarassing!!

Remind me who's called to congratulate Trump?

Scuttlebutt has it that a not too happy Trump called Murdoch

According to this the 3rd wave should signficantly subside by December

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324090166752010248

 

[Danidl]

And how exactly did this postal employee do this?. And how many ballots were affected even were it true?. You need to open the franking machines ..Twice once to change the date and then to change it back... And nobody sees this?. Investigate it surely, but with an open mind.

Answering my own posting, which puts certain knickers in a twist.. but anyway. It seems that that Postal worker involved tells porkies.. according to a . obviously Partisan Democratic committee in Congress, he has within the last hour formally recanted his statement. All presumably in an attempt to bad mouth his boss in the Post Office. I suspect the threat of sueing for slander , might have brought him to his senses. He was investigated by Post Office security staff..
Of course SP and Vhr will have a conspiracy explanation.

 

[Woosh]

79% of Americans say Biden won.
Only 3% say Trump won.
13% say the election has not been decided and 5% don't want to say.

Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Nearly 80% of Americans, including more than half of Republicans, recognize President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election after most media organizations called the race for the Democrat based on his leads in critical battleground states, according to a Reuters...

www.reuters.com

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

79% of Americans say Biden won.
Only 3% say Trump won.
13% say the election has not been decided and 5% don't want to say.

Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Nearly 80% of Americans, including more than half of Republicans, recognize President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election after most media organizations called the race for the Democrat based on his leads in critical battleground states, according to a Reuters...

www.reuters.com

They’ve managed to ask every American that question, collate and process the results even before the election count is finished? How marvellous.

 

[Woosh]

it's just one poll but it shows that 60% of Reps accepted Biden won.
Give it a few days, Arizona and Georgia will declare for Biden.
Trump's defiance is futile. It's just like the last days of Hitler.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Lets go back a stage.
A person had a lump of money in their pocket in the morning . at the end of the day it is missing.
Now. the first thing they do is look and see if there is a hole, in the pocket. then they might count up the things they bought and if they bought nothing and there is no hole .. then they suspect a robbery.
They then go to the police and say, .. the dodgy guy on the street , or the attractive woman chatted me up for a while . Or they might be very obvious and say. this big bloke tripped me up and his mates emptied my pockets ///.
In the police station , they then ask details like what colour stripped pullover was the bloke .they then search for the bloke or the girl or the pub .. In other words the test his responses for plausibility
They do not bother to do anything if the guy claims he had money in the morning and cannot give any reason why it is missing or how it could be missing ,. Particularly if his only argument is I should not be out of pocket.
So please list the CREDIBLE grounds for suspicion as listed., in any legal complaint.

You still have it all arse about face. Don’t worry though, we are used to dealing with it.

Let’s stitch to tour analogy above:

1) Man has money in pocket (Trump leading the count)

2) Man discovers money missing later in the day. (Biden overtakes Trump in count)

3) Man believes money was stolen. (Trump believes electoral fraud has taken place)

4) Man says he thinks a staff member in a cafe stole his money because he spilt coffee on him and made a big fuss, drying him, patting him down etc. He then disappeared for several minutes, which looked suspicious. (Trump says he believes the counting & voting process stole his votes because observers were moved out of range, windows were covered up and it’s been suggested that dead people have voted and other people have voted twice. This looks suspicious)

5) It’s now the police / authority‘s job to sort this out. In the case of the Man, they interview him and get the full details of the allegations down on paper in the form of a statement. They then start an investigation to see if there is evidence of the statement being bollicks. If not, they move the investigation to the cafe to see if there is evidence to support the allegation. (With Trump, the same process should follow. Get the allegations down on paper, start an investigation, first to see if there is evidence of them being unfounded, if no evidence of that exists, move on to investigate the counting process to see if evidence of fraud exists.

What you and the media are saying is that Trump / The Man must provide evidence to convict the guilty before anyone will look at the allegations. That’s untrue and that itself looks suspicious, like there is something to hide.

Trump has made an allegation and drawn attention to suspicious activity. Now an investigation should follow to see if there is anything in it.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

it's just one poll but it shows that 60% of Reps accepted Biden won.
Give it a few days, Arizona and Georgia will declare for Biden.
Trump's defiance is futile. It's just like the last days of Hitler.

So they don’t know then because they haven’t asked, they’ve just made assumptions to fit an agenda.