Brexit, for once some facts.

[Danidl]

It's not just "some right winger on a Youtube video", it's Rudi Giuliani, the guy that has a long history of success in clearing up corruption.

Here's Tim Pool on it - well worth watching. Tim is a traditional left winger, like me. Emails are confirmed as genuine and one of the guys that sent them confirmed that "The big Guy" that he mentioned is Biden:

It might harm your defence if you do not mention certain facts that you come to rely on regarding Mr G. He was a good Mayor in NYC in 2001... . I don't go around using job titles I had 22 years ago,..do you?. Since then he has created a dislike for the Clintons ..since H Clinton stood against him in Senate elections. He has veered more and more into the Trump vortex.
Lets get real . What providence has the laptops?.

 

[oyster]

It might harm your defence if you do not mention certain facts that you come to rely on regarding Mr G. He was a good Mayor in NYC in 2001... . I don't go around using job titles I had 22 years ago,..do you?. Since then he has created a dislike for the Clintons ..since H Clinton stood against him in Senate elections. He has veered more and more into the Trump vortex.
Lets get real . What providence has the laptops?.

Provenance?

Don't think Rhode Island is involved!

 

[vfr400]

It might harm your defence if you do not mention certain facts that you come to rely on regarding Mr G. He was a good Mayor in NYC in 2001... . I don't go around using job titles I had 22 years ago,..do you?. Since then he has created a dislike for the Clintons ..since H Clinton stood against him in Senate elections. He has veered more and more into the Trump vortex.
Lets get real . What providence has the laptops?.

As I said in my last post, the guy that sent one of the emails has confirmed that he sent it. It's all detailed in that Tim Pool vid above. Guys like Tim Pool and Styxhexenhammer666 have been doing this sort of reporting for many years. They don't make mistakes, otherwise they'd have been shut down by now.

Edit: it was one of the guys on the circulation list that confirmed the veracity of the email and that the "Big guy" is Biden.

 

[sjpt]

I hope that this will be seen by the electorate as the muck-raking it is, and will bias many people against the Trump campaign. Even if it is accepted as true it will be reminder that Trump is worse.

Of course, that assumes an intelligent electorate, so maybe not....

 

[Woosh]

As I said in my last post, the guy that sent one of the emails has confirmed that he sent it. It's all detailed in that Tim Pool vid above. Guys like Tim Pool and Styxhexenhammer666 have been doing this sort of reporting for many years. They don't make mistakes, otherwise they'd have been shut down by now.

Tim Pool does have a good career but his story is nothing particularly interesting. The facts about Biden and the government loan guarantee for Ukraine are well known. Biden was not acting alone and outside his remit.
I don't attach any importance to his comments because he is known as a right winger republican activist and a Trumpist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory#:~:text=The Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory,the Ukrainian gas company Burisma.

 

[vfr400]

Tim Pool does have a good career but his story is nothing particularly interesting. The facts about Biden and the government loan guarantee for Ukraine are well known. Biden was not acting alone and outside his remit.
I don't attach any importance to his comments because he is known as a right winger republican activist and a Trumpist.

Tim Pool is and has always been traditional left wing, not right wing. He said he voted democrat in the last election, but will probably reluctantly vote for Trump in this one because he's not happy about the way the dems are going. He's not a Trump supporter per se.

These two parties can't really be classed as right and left wing anymore because their values have switched. Trump is all about supporting the ordinary American people, while the dems are all pro billionaires and global corporations. The dems are now tending towards fascism, as you can see by them using their influence in social media to shut down stories they don't like along with any commentators that don't agree with them. There are a lot of parallels between what the dems and their supporters are doing and what the Nazis did in Germany in the 1930s.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Tim Pool is and has always been traditional left wing, not right wing. He said he voted democrat in the last election, but will probably reluctantly vote for Trump in this one because he's not happy about the way the dems are going. He's not a Trump supporter per se.

These two parties can't really be classed as right and left wing anymore because their values have switched. Trump is all about supporting the ordinary American people, while the dems are all pro billionaires and global corporations. The dems are now tending towards fascism, as you can see by them using their influence in social media to shut down stories they don't like along with any commentators that don't agree with them. There are a lot of parallels between what the dems and their supporters are doing and what the Nazis did in Germany in the 1930s.

Your posts, with respect, make me think of Stockholm syndrome. How do you square what you say with trump's tax record?

 

[mike killay]

Your posts, with respect, make me think of Stockholm syndrome. How do you square what you say with trump's tax record?

Typical lefty reply,
Change the subject and Smear.

 

[Woosh]

Trump is all about supporting the ordinary American people, while the dems are all pro billionaires and global corporations.

you know very well that the job of government is to raise taxes to pay for public services. If more tax dollars are paid by billionaires then ordinary Americans will pay less. If the total tax is less, then future Americans will have to repay more borrowings.
Trump cuts hundreds of billions dollars in tax for the rich and $2,000 a head for ordinary Americans. Biden will reverse corporation tax cut and increase federal tax on all those earning more than $400,000 a year.
Common sense says that Trump looks after himself and his billionaire friends, not Biden.
Trump is all about campaigning and not delivery. He talks some sense but delivered so far only tax cut while loading the US will trillions of dollars extra borrowing. He is a disaster on all fronts, covid, race relations, ACA, the wall on the Southern border, trade war with everyone, failed foreign policy with every country. He is a messer, anything he touches becomes quickly a disaster. He thinks he is a genius. As I said, he is still inside his 'the apprentice' show. Delusional.

 

[flecc]

Back to world beating test and trace or whatever it's called today.

First, people are getting wrong alert levels for their areas. (Claimed to be fixed.)

Yep, a friend checked and found it doesn't know all of London has been in Tier 2 since midnight Friday.

So that's nearly a fifth of the country wrong.
.

 

[Woosh]

it seems that first generation vaccines will be available by Christmas.

 

[vfr400]

Your posts, with respect, make me think of Stockholm syndrome. How do you square what you say with trump's tax record?

The story has come out today that the laptop contains thousands of images of Hunter Biden raping and beating underage girls (like 10 yrs old) in China. Some are screaming for him to stop. Does that compare with a guy and his tax return? if you think so, you're very sick.

The story has come from multiple sources. Hunter Biden was compromised by it and working as a Chinese asset. The FBI knew all about it. Big tech is trying to cover it up. Why? This story is going to blow everything wide open. Hopefully, we can go back to how things used to be after the air clears.

Still, nothing has been denied by the Bidens after three days!

 

[Danidl]

As I said in my last post, the guy that sent one of the emails has confirmed that he sent it. It's all detailed in that Tim Pool vid above. Guys like Tim Pool and Styxhexenhammer666 have been doing this sort of reporting for many years. They don't make mistakes, otherwise they'd have been shut down by now.

Edit: it was one of the guys on the circulation list that confirmed the veracity of the email and that the "Big guy" is Biden.

As a sop to you I actually listened to that video. It is the totally unactionable garbage of a conspiracy nutjob. .
An assertion is not evidence and is certainly not proof. Let us start with those laptops . Has anyone proven that they were at any stage purchased by the Biden group?. if H Biden was a big shot, they would have been purchased new ,so there would be serial numbers ,invoices etc. Apple computers ,even second user are premium prices . The Trump crowd claim to have had them for many months, so why not a bit of proof?.
My understanding is that the repair shop where they were deposited was .
1. A Trump supporter
2. In Delaware... Not LA . ,Where HB resides Was HB in Delaware ?. It is 3000 miles away!!.
Until those questions are adequately addressed nothing else is relevant.
3 . Not going back for repaired kit ???. Apple computers ,how likely is that?.

But just to stimulate your curiosity.. why would email addresses for the people in the Ukraine actually say Ukraine rather than the normal UA suffix. Like saying that someone's email in England was vfr400 @ bt.unitedkingdom rather than vfr400@ bt.co.uk

It is not credible and that Tim person making strawman arguments does not make it so.
And NO..the Land of the Free allows all sorts of nonsense under the specious argument of free speech. There are entire websites ,which have not been closed down, insulting tge memory of those kids murdered at Sandyhook.

 

[Woosh]

As a sop to you I actually listened to that video.

that's what vfr wants you to do.
I much prefer wiki the story rather than watch the whole spiel.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I’m starting to come round to Andy Burnham’s way of thinking. Don’t do anything in Manchester and Liverpool. Let the virus rip, taking the brakes off completely, and see what happens. We can see just how high the infections reach before they start to plateau and also see how many people die. That can then be extrapolated across the rest of the country. That will tell the rest of us what the damage would be if we applied a similar national strategy to Andy Burnham’s local plan.

You never know, Burnham might be in to something. Infection might level off at a point lower than previously thought. On the other hand..... Could be interesting.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

What does The Donald and Jacinda Ardern have in common? Both have been elected into office against the wishes of the majority of their country! Good init.

Feel free to attack her in a similar manner to which you have previously attacked The Donald for benefiting from the same situation.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I’m just listening to Anne Longfield letting her tongue flap in the breeze about children’s menacal elf and keeping schools open. Of course, she was speaking from the safety of her home. When was the last time her hideous carcass was stood, fir 8 hours, in front of a classroom full of snotty kids licking each other and the fixtures & fittings?

It’s easy to tell others what to do when you have no personal safety issues on the line. The ridiculous cow should lead from the front.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Now I’m listening to Dr Alice Bunn, a metallurgist, telling us that PPE is going to be delivered by drone. Has she spoken to the CAA about this? Has she never heard of the Ford Transit van? The drone nonsense isn’t going to happen this side of Coronavirus, forget it Dr Bunn.

For balance, we should hear the opinion of the Guild of Circus Showmen and their views on delivering PPE by a juggler on a unicycle.

Who appoints these crack-pots into positions for which they are entirely unsuitable. It must be a quota thing.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Now I’m listening to Dr Alice Bunn, a metallurgist, telling us that PPE is going to be delivered by drone. Has she spoken to the CAA about this? Has she never heard of the Ford Transit van? The drone nonsense isn’t going to happen this side of Coronavirus, forget it Dr Bunn.

For balance, we should hear the opinion of the Guild of Circus Showmen and their views on delivering PPE by a juggler on a unicycle.

Who appoints these crack-pots into positions for which they are entirely unsuitable. It must be a quota thing.

Maybe it's a self interested conservative voter thing? Maybe some self interested right wing idiots voted for twats like cummings and boris whose entire lives, like the idiots you mention, is about enriching themselves at taxpayer expense who create this culture of government?

 

[wheeler]

What does The Donald and Jacinda Ardern have in common? Both have been elected into office against the wishes of the majority of their country! Good init.

Feel free to attack her in a similar manner to which you have previously attacked The Donald for benefiting from the same situation.

There is nothing to attack, the electoral systems are completely different.
The US doesn't use the mixed member proportional system and NZ doesn't use the electoral college.
You are comparing apples and oranges, very orange in the case of Trump.