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I see Trump has said he will leave the US if he loses the election, coincidentally the Trump Organisation has been granted planning permission for another loss- making golf course on an SSSI to the north of Aberdeen.
Perhaps he is making his retirement arrangements.
 
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As a sop to you I actually listened to that video. It is the totally unactionable garbage of a conspiracy nutjob. .
An assertion is not evidence and is certainly not proof. Let us start with those laptops . Has anyone proven that they were at any stage purchased by the Biden group?. if H Biden was a big shot, they would have been purchased new ,so there would be serial numbers ,invoices etc. Apple computers ,even second user are premium prices . The Trump crowd claim to have had them for many months, so why not a bit of proof?.
My understanding is that the repair shop where they were deposited was .
1. A Trump supporter
2. In Delaware... Not LA . ,Where HB resides Was HB in Delaware ?. It is 3000 miles away!!.
Until those questions are adequately addressed nothing else is relevant.
3 . Not going back for repaired kit ???. Apple computers ,how likely is that?.

But just to stimulate your curiosity.. why would email addresses for the people in the Ukraine actually say Ukraine rather than the normal UA suffix. Like saying that someone's email in England was vfr400 @ bt.unitedkingdom rather than vfr400@ bt.co.uk

It is not credible and that Tim person making strawman arguments does not make it so.
And NO..the Land of the Free allows all sorts of nonsense under the specious argument of free speech. There are entire websites ,which have not been closed down, insulting tge memory of those kids murdered at Sandyhook.
Just one thing undermines your arguments and facts. The story has been published by The New York Post - one of the longest established newspapers and with one of the largest circulations in the USA. If it weren't true, wouldn't the Bidens be suing them for billions of dollars? Hello!

Why have Facebook and Twitter stopped any links to this story in the NYP? Why did Twitter shut down the accounts of Kayleigh McEnany, various senators and US government accounts?

 
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Just one thing undermines your arguments and facts. The story has been published by The New York Post - one of the longest established newspapers and with the largest circulation in the USA. If it weren't true, wouldn't the Bidens be suing them for billions of dollars? hello!

You're conflating two different stories. Perhaps you should try harder to disguise that next time. This isnt a knuckle dragging trump rally.
 

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Just one thing undermines your arguments and facts. The story has been published by The New York Post - one of the longest established newspapers and with the largest circulation in the USA. If it weren't true, wouldn't the Bidens be suing them for billions of dollars? hello!


NYP is Murdoch owned like The Sun here in the UK if i'm not mistaken.

Even Fox’s research team advises colleagues to be wary of “disinformation” from several Trump-boosting on-air regulars, including Giuliani.


 
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Do you still think it's a hoax? Why are all these senators writing to Christopher Wray to ask wtf is going on? I'm just going out to get a couple of kilograms of popcorn.

 
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Do you still think it's a hoax? Why are all these senators writing to Christopher Wray to ask wtf is going on? I'm just going out to get a couple of kilograms of popcorn.

Best place for the popcorn would be to put it in your ears :D :D :D :D
 

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Do you still think it's a hoax? Why are all these senators writing to Christopher Wray to ask wtf is going on? I'm just going out to get a couple of kilograms of popcorn.

Save it for the big day vfr and you can throw it at your telly when Biden gets all the votes and Trump gets re-elected.
 

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Fascinating

Which beg the slightly rephrased questions

1. Was Rudy Giuliani / Bannon in possession of the laptop and hard drive (data) that was documented in the New York Post article?

(Bannon told a leading Dutch public broadcaster last month that he had a copy of Hunter Biden's hard drive after having apparently kept it under wraps for about 10 months.)

2. Did Rudy Giuliani / Bannon take any steps to authenticate the laptop, hard drive, and data that was uncovered?

3. Did Rudy Giuliani / Bannon brief officials at the Department of Justice or at the White House about this laptop or hard drive at any point since December 2019?

4. Why did Rudy Giuliani / Bannon have the information about this laptop and hard drive before the American people?
 

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1: Did the Laptop actually ever exist ?

2: Does the USA actually exist ?

3: What colour are Joe Biden's boxers today ?

Important questions of our time that should be answered NOW !
 
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Do you still think it's a hoax? Why are all these senators writing to Christopher Wray to ask wtf is going on? I'm just going out to get a couple of kilograms of popcorn.

Yes ..not only do I think it is untrue. It is potentially treasonous,not to be confused with the innocent word HOAX. My understanding is that the FBI think so too. Now they are not going to make the same mistake twice and say anything in the weeks before an election. But I think your pal Rudi, might be looking for a good lawyer.
The situation in the USA is febrile. There are many GoP senators and congressmen up for election . It is not just the President position in play. Expect more and more frantic posturing. The US public cannot have been impressed by the farce last January at the Senate.
Meanwhile where are you on the simple questions I posed .. What evidence have you that those laptops were within 2000 miles of the Bidens ever?. That is where you start.
 

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Just one thing undermines your arguments and facts. The story has been published by The New York Post - one of the longest established newspapers and with one of the largest circulations in the USA. If it weren't true, wouldn't the Bidens be suing them for billions of dollars? Hello!

Why have Facebook and Twitter stopped any links to this story in the NYP? Why did Twitter shut down the accounts of Kayleigh McEnany, various senators and US government accounts?

Yes the NYP is a long running newspaper with a distinguished PAST. I am reluctant to include the current synopsis of it from Wilki ..but it is not flattering. Indeed why has the NYP not sued Wilki for its comments ?
It takes time to set up a court case. That is why, and at present the Biden campaign has an election to win ..by fair means.
I suspect that FB, Twitter etc, have asked themselves ..or their lawyers have asked them to checkout the potential veracity before they get sued.
 

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Yes ..not only do I think it is untrue. It is potentially treasonous,not to be confused with the innocent word HOAX. My understanding is that the FBI think so too. Now they are not going to make the same mistake twice and say anything in the weeks before an election. But I think your pal Rudi, might be looking for a good lawyer.
The situation in the USA is febrile. There are many GoP senators and congressmen up for election . It is not just the President position in play. Expect more and more frantic posturing. The US public cannot have been impressed by the farce last January at the Senate.
Meanwhile where are you on the simple questions I posed .. What evidence have you that those laptops were within 2000 miles of the Bidens ever?. That is where you start.
Why hasn't Biden started a law suit against NYP and Giuliani and all the others?
Why hasn't he denied that it's true?
 

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Surely Biden doesn't have to prove anything, they have to prove it's true ...just give us the facts ma'am...
 
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Say what you like about The Donald, he is a crazy bastard, but he's going to win. Simple fact is he is popular with Americans and his popularity is still sufficient to get him over the line for a second term. That's just the way it rolls.
 
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RossG

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Well he has said if he looses he wont step down anyway so it looks like he'll be there forever, doomed to haunt the oval office like a stale fart. Very apt for a chap with the name of Trump :)
 

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back in 2016, the majority of voters who disliked both H. Clinton and Trump voted for Trump on the day (64/36, two to one)
In 2020, polls show that those who dislike both Biden and Trump will vote for Biden by a huge margin, 7 to 1.
so expect an upset if you like, but it won't be good for Trump.
 

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The "no surprise" headline of the evening:

Covid: Greater Manchester set to run out of hospital beds, leak reveals

NHS document shows no spare beds for patients in Salford, Stockport and Bolton
 
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