Brexit, for once some facts.
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Boris Johnson: "If this virus were a physical assailant, an unexpected and invisible mugger - which I can tell you from personal experience, it is - then this is the moment when we have begun together to wrestle it to the floor.” http://l-bc.co/2zqDX0L
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We didn't get much help wrestling the virus to the floor from you Boris, did we? or from the Monkey on your back
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Boris Johnson: "If this virus were a physical assailant, an unexpected and invisible mugger - which I can tell you from personal experience, it is - then this is the moment when we have begun together to wrestle it to the floor.” http://l-bc.co/2zqDX0L
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We didn't get much help wrestling the virus to the floor from you Boris, did we? or from the Monkey on your back
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BREAKING: Boris Johnson tells businesses to be patient as he insisted now is not the time to ease the coronavirus lockdown. https://l-bc.co/2zqDX0L
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
I'm sure businesses have realised why it is taking so long after the disastrous decision Boris made to delay lockdown in the first place
Not a good start Boris!
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BREAKING: Boris Johnson tells businesses to be patient as he insisted now is not the time to ease the coronavirus lockdown. https://l-bc.co/2zqDX0L
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
I'm sure businesses have realised why it is taking so long after the disastrous decision Boris made to delay lockdown in the first place
Not a good start Boris!
Very selective with just three examples, two of them very low populations. Sweden had done much better than many other EU countries, including us as you've shown.
As others have said, it's a choice between death rates and economic death, while bearing in mind that the death rate is chiefly of the already severely compromised in old age.
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Boris Johnson said he can see the long-term consequences of lockdown and shares companies' urgency to re-open, but he cannot allow a second wave of coronavirus, which would create an economic disaster.
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Boris prefers the next Economic disaster to be Home Made. it's called BREXIT
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Boris Johnson said he can see the long-term consequences of lockdown and shares companies' urgency to re-open, but he cannot allow a second wave of coronavirus, which would create an economic disaster.
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Boris prefers the next Economic disaster to be Home Made. it's called BREXIT
Difficult to present the Swedish example as being one to emulate, what the figures show is that our own actions at the start caused huge unnecessary losses of Human lives
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'Many people will be looking at our apparent success' is the new 'We won the argument'. What a shower.
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Boris and his "Apparent success" reminds me of the opening sequence of "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines"Red Skelton leaps off a cliff with man made wings leaving a man shaped hole in the beach,a voice says "Encouraged by these early successes man kept trying"
Sceptic that I am, I checked and found this is genuine. I believed OG had posted in good faith, he would not do otherwise, but wanted to double-check such a significant development.Oh Dear
https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/exclusive-national-alert-as-coronavirus-related-condition-may-be-emerging-in-children/7027496.article
I find this much more worrying than the fate of us old codgers.
We'll know when the final results come in. Until then all our guesses are as good as each others.
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Have not posted figures for a few days.
Not happy at the changes in the figures for Wales. But death rate looks somewhat better than England.
Not happy at the changes in the figures for Wales. But death rate looks somewhat better than England.
| Sunday | 26/04/2020 | |||||
| Country | 2018 population | Total cases | Deaths | Deaths / cases % | Cases / pop % | Death/pop % |
| England | 55,977,178 | 110,203 | 18,419 | 16.7% | 0.20% | 0.033% |
| Northern Ireland | 1,881,641 | 3,308 | 294 | 8.9% | 0.18% | 0.016% |
| Scotland | 5,438,100 | 10,324 | 1231 | 11.9% | 0.19% | 0.023% |
| Wales | 3,138,631 | 9,078 | 788 | 8.7% | 0.29% | 0.025% |
66,435,550 | 132,913 | 20,732 | 15.6% | 0.20% | 0.031% | |
| Thursday | 23/04/2020 | |||||
| Country | 2018 population | Total cases | Deaths | Deaths / cases % | Cases / pop % | Death/pop % |
| England | 55,977,178 | 102,221 | 16,785 | 16.4% | 0.18% | 0.030% |
| Northern Ireland | 1,881,641 | 3,016 | 250 | 8.3% | 0.16% | 0.013% |
| Scotland | 5,438,100 | 9,409 | 1062 | 11.3% | 0.17% | 0.020% |
| Wales | 3,138,631 | 8,358 | 641 | 7.7% | 0.27% | 0.020% |
66,435,550 | 123,004 | 18,738 | 15.2% | 0.19% | 0.028% |
Actually England's is heavily weighted down by the high rate in London with it's huge , high density population and very high BAME population which is especially vulnerable.
I think England without London would be shown to perform well in comparison, since London's latest death total on the 25th is 4542, which is 25.7% of the England total.
But London's true population of 10.2 millions is only 15% of the country. The "official" London population is 8.5 millions, only 13% of the country.
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But the rate of cases in Wales is higher than in England!
The death rate in Wales is considerably lower.
Bad statistics? Or genuine?
dont worry about me but what about the 1.5 million on uc they wont help you get a job but will be more than happy to sanction the crap out of you and shut down your uc claim online.
can you live on dust and rain water and sleep in shop door ways, if not the dwp will be more than happy to add you to there death list of 1000s
Disabled man starved to death after DWP stopped his benefits
MPs call for inquiry into case of Errol Graham, 57, who weighed 28.5kg when he was found dead
www.theguardian.com
and plenty more where that came from but hey no one gives a crap about that tho why not give work coaches machine guns and just get it over with pmsl
In a way it could be good news. Now they know that they have skin in the game, they might not be as reckless with social distancing.
As I've said a couple of times, vulnerability. Overall London's environment is very unfavourable for optimum health, and there's our very large BAME community. Only just over 40% of Londoners are white British born.
Both factors mean a higher death rate from cases.
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I’ve just been informed of the death of a person I knew very well and who lived in Germany. He died of Coronavirus. Last year, he had a double lung transplant and was doing very well. His wife is currently undergoing chemotherapy, so as you can imagine, he was very strict and meticulous about contact and hygiene.
As to how he contracted the virus, he wrote this a few days before he died.
It could have only come from one of two sources. Earlier in the month I had to provide biometric data at the immigration centre then a few days later I carried out a survey on behalf of a client who was considering purchasing an aircraft . I had checked beforehand that no-one showed any sign or symptoms or had been sick. 98% of the time we were outdoors and kept to a strict distancing policy. At all other times, we didn’t leave the house and were isolating.
Knowing this man and his meticulous working methods, I think he would have remembered someone coughing on him or sneezing nearby. Again, “the science” would have us believe this is the primary transmission method. I simply don’t believe it. My suspicion is that this virus can infect via the air exhaled by a carrier far more easily than we are being told.
As to how he contracted the virus, he wrote this a few days before he died.
It could have only come from one of two sources. Earlier in the month I had to provide biometric data at the immigration centre then a few days later I carried out a survey on behalf of a client who was considering purchasing an aircraft . I had checked beforehand that no-one showed any sign or symptoms or had been sick. 98% of the time we were outdoors and kept to a strict distancing policy. At all other times, we didn’t leave the house and were isolating.
Knowing this man and his meticulous working methods, I think he would have remembered someone coughing on him or sneezing nearby. Again, “the science” would have us believe this is the primary transmission method. I simply don’t believe it. My suspicion is that this virus can infect via the air exhaled by a carrier far more easily than we are being told.