can't help yourself can you. You don't know what the effect will be on this country. You have chosen to believe the people who say it will be bad and I haven't. You have accused leavers of being racist stupid etc. I could say the same about those who wish to remain. Call them cowards Say they are thick because they cannot see beyond Brussels. We never asked to join the EU . We were never consulted. Just forced into it by the likes of Blair, who by the way promised a referendum on 2 separate occasions and then reneged. Possibly because he could see the writing on the wall. When it comes down to it we are leaving and are going to have to make the best of it. I personally prefer BJ over JC to get us through. If I am wrong it won't be the first time, but I may be right and am willing to take the chance
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Miniscule compared to the total of our Tax Havens, but of course they are all ethically wrong
Personally though I'll miss Jean-Claude Juncker and his mischievous sense of humour. He has wonderful ways of dealing with awkward people.
As with Viktor Orban, the hard line prime minister of minor country Hungary at their last get together.
With an impish smile Jean -Claude greeted him with "And how is our little dictator?".
Wonderful, Orban cut down to size in an instant.
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Wow! That's seriously mixed up thinking.
JRM issued a set of standards regarding how he expects the people who work for him to communicate on his behalf. If he has developed a format for his communications, then he has every right to impose that format on those employed to communicate on his behalf.
The comment is appropriate and it still stands.
I admire the way JRM communicates. He is clear, polite, unambiguous and has an enviable vocabulary, which explains why the left don't like him.
People would do well to aspire to JRM's standards of communication instead of dumbing down language. The BBC are one of the worst offenders, constantly pushing comedy regional accents into all aspects of their broadcasting.
Organisations are singular. Did you not read JRM's rules?
This is the grossest distortion of the situation, missing out all the background. As I've posted before more than once, when Ted Heath was taking us into the EEC it was made abundantly clear by him and others that the intention was to work towards European Unity. That the wider public only bothered with the headline Common Market was their fault, no-one else's. I and others who bothered to look further knew the truth which was never kept from us, and I'd known that from the Treaty of Rome onwards.
We did ask to join the EEC many times, and we did sign up to all the treaties towards unity. It was John Major who fought for the Maastricht Treaty acceptance to finalise our path to unity and he signed up to it, Blair not involved since he wasn't in power at the time.
And it was the UK public that used the 1975 referendum to approve the path we were on. They also elected all the pro EU leaders and governments over the years, even when there were alternatives standing for election.
I don't like Blair or politicians in general, but being truthful and fair is important. We have been where we were for 47 years entirely due to the UK public's acquiescence.
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i recall a vote about joining the Common Market, but don't ever recall one about joining the EU. Maybe we were all expected to read all the documents and legalese to see what they were really up to. It was Blair who was in when the Lisbon treaty was passed .Wasn't that the one that had it's title changed so that we didn't get a vote on it, but it was still the same. I seem to think that Gordon Brown snuck in and out of the back door to sign it. And John Major wonders why he lost the 1997 election having sold us down the river with Maastricht
Me thinks it is YOUR grasp of the 'facts' that is the problem here.
Who is not accepting the result of the referendum?
It's not me.
No it wasn't necessary to read any documents. Just take note of what was said by politicians in speeches quoted on the various news programs at the time. From Churchill speaking strongly in favour of European Unity onwards, the public have never taken any notice of what was being said.
They weren't interested in the subject so didn't bother to inform themselves, and it's little different now.
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I haven't been beastly to you at all, simply treated you with the respect you deserve
No indeed that wouldn't help to "Make America Great again" would it?
Is this just a general comment?Correction of grammar and spelling will only end up in you being hoisted by your own petard.
Your facts are so fundamentally wrong - about the uk - eu history, that it is neither possible nor worth responding to this post. You also evidently have a massive chip on the shoulder about racism. Now why on earth would that be?