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oyster said:
Ice cream van man in leaver Eastbourne...

“Since Brexit, people have less money, and less confidence in spending money. They haven’t got the money in their pockets they had a few years ago.” (Eastbourne voted to leave the EU.)
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/jul/09/the-big-scoop-what-a-day-with-an-ice-cream-man-taught-me-about-modern-britain

(Ironic that Roach uses a fresh milk mix from Mediterranean Ices. :) )

Will brexit spell the end for even more traditional British ice cream vans?
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Or maybe the Guardian has an agender? Maybe people have grown away from the sickly sweet artificial 'soft ice cream' they sell at ridiculous prices? Or maybe Brexit really is responsible for killing off the paperboy, the milkman, the shoeshiner, tv repair man and chimney sweep.

Yeah it's brexit. Of course it's brexit.

When did brexit happen again?
 
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I see that Jeremy has now made a sort of decision on going for a second referendum after being told by his union paymasters what to do. I don't recollect them being elected by anyone, but then again it won't be the first time they have run the country. And you then have the ridiculous situation where Labour are whingeing about BJ being made PM because it is not democratic. So a choice. Have a country run by BJ and Conservatives or one run by Unison and JC
 
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Yeah you do get to vote who runs unions. It's pretty much how unions work tbh.
 
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oyster said:
Ice cream van man in leaver Eastbourne...

“Since Brexit, people have less money, and less confidence in spending money. They haven’t got the money in their pockets they had a few years ago.” (Eastbourne voted to leave the EU.)
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/jul/09/the-big-scoop-what-a-day-with-an-ice-cream-man-taught-me-about-modern-britain

(Ironic that Roach uses a fresh milk mix from Mediterranean Ices. :) )

Will brexit spell the end for even more traditional British ice cream vans?
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Like very many people I no longer carry cash, so that factor alone is much more likely than Brexit to account for lost ice cream van sales. It's also seriously dented charity collections.
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Like very many people I no longer carry cash, so that factor alone is much more likely than Brexit to account for lost ice cream van sales. It's also seriously dented charity collections.
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I always carry cash in case I meet a homeless person
 
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the Pound falls to near two year low.
£1 = $1.245
I shudder to think where the exchange rate will be in a couple of weeks when BJ becomes our next PM.
 
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Labour now officially backs a second referendum but JC still could not let go of that fence.
Officially, Labour only backs remain if BJ takes us out on a no deal brexit.
If Labour forms the next government, Labour still wants to renegotiate May's deal and get on with brexit.
If remainers want to reverse brexit, they have to keep both tories and Labour out of power.
I wonder if JC does not want to become the future PM.
His tactic is apparently to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement next time then table an amendment to ask for a second referendum.
 
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Woosh said:
Labour now officially backs a second referendum but JC still could not let go of that fence.
Officially, Labour only backs remain if BJ takes us out on a no deal brexit.
If Labour forms the next government, Labour still wants to renegotiate May's deal and get on with brexit.
If remainers want to reverse brexit, they have to keep both tories and Labour out of power.
I wonder if JC does not want to become the future PM.
His tactic is apparently to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement next time then table an amendment to ask for a second referendum.
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I think JC has about as much chance of becoming our PM one day as I have of winning the Lottery, and I don't even do the Lottery.
 
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Just for you OG - from the Adam Smith boys:

"The Guardian treats us to a complaint about Brexit. That if we go to free trade then that will mean screwing the British farmer. Good, that’s what we want to do, screw the British farmer. That’s one of the points of having Brexit:

All this plays to my very real fear that we will be sold out as the British government desperately seeks trade deals with anyone who will have us. I believe they would happily open up our highly regulated food sector to all-comers if they’ll buy our financial services. Selling out British farming could end up being the legacy of Brexit. My fear is that free-trading ministers, who are frustrated by what they dismiss as the “red tape” of the EU, could sacrifice rural Britain in a heartbeat if it meant a trade deal with the US. We cannot let that happen. Instead of discussing just how many billions of pounds will be needed to mitigate the effects of a no-deal Brexit, politicians should be discussing their vision of what the future of British farming and food production looks like. We need to be thinking further than just 31 October.
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There are some 30,000 farmers in the UK. And there are 65 million or so food consumers. Free trade would mean benefits for said consumers and would entirely screw those farmers. Good, let’s have free trade and screw the farmers.

No, spouting about how people want those higher food standards doesn’t work. For those who do want them will continue to buy that higher priced food. We’ll see how many people actually do want it by looking at how many British farmers stay in business after we’ve got free trade.

Entirely shafting the British farmer isn’t a problem with Brexit, it’s the point."
 
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OxygenJames said:
Just for you OG - from the Adam Smith boys:

"The Guardian treats us to a complaint about Brexit. That if we go to free trade then that will mean screwing the British farmer. Good, that’s what we want to do, screw the British farmer. That’s one of the points of having Brexit:


There are some 30,000 farmers in the UK. And there are 65 million or so food consumers. Free trade would mean benefits for said consumers and would entirely screw those farmers. Good, let’s have free trade and screw the farmers.

No, spouting about how people want those higher food standards doesn’t work. For those who do want them will continue to buy that higher priced food. We’ll see how many people actually do want it by looking at how many British farmers stay in business after we’ve got free trade.

Entirely shafting the British farmer isn’t a problem with Brexit, it’s the point."
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Only to an idiot. Our misfortune is that we have so many of them.
In their arrogance they imagine themselves wise, when they are simply greedy and selfish, working against the common interest they form themselves into squalid groups of plotters bought and paid for by dodgy donors.

And how do they operate? let's take for example the ERG which because it calls itself a "Research" group, and is in fact an opposition withing the Conservative Party
https://www.theweek.co.uk/91461/who-does-the-shadowy-european-research-group-represent
They are parasites on the rest of us.
And the Adam Smith institute?
http://powerbase.info/index.php/Adam_Smith_Institute

Bunch of dodgy chancers...up to nothing of value to the public pushing short termist profit making scams pretending to be forward thinking policies and creating mischief too wherever they rear their ugly heads.
 
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