Brexit, for once some facts.

[flecc]

it appears that many farmers get more for not producing crops . There are 2 large fields near me. Every year they are full of sweetcorn and every year it is left to rot. I don't know the reason for this but can only assume it is something to do with the CAP. I personally think it is disgusting that good food is allowed to go to waste when people around the world are starving.

Sweetcorn grown in Britain isn't for human consumption, our climate isn't suitable for that. It's for animal food. The numbers of dairy cattle have long been in decline so It may be that which has led to a poor market for the maize and no takers.

He'd be better switching to winter wheat if the fields are large enough to make it worthwhile.

However, he may be switching to organic which means three years fallow or unused crops to qualify.
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[flecc]

I well remember the days of my childhood when a horse drawn cart brought ice cream to us. And delicious it was. None of this horrible fluffy stuff that looks like it has come out of an icing bag and has a taste like wallpaper paste

The van ice cream isn't made to any normal ice cream recipe. It's fundamentally milk and a form of very finely ground gelatine, mixed and chilled. That's why it's so white and fluffy.
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[oyster]

Anyone care to predict the wonderful trade agreements we will get from the USA?

Trump lashes out at 'foolish' May as crisis over ambassador grows

US commerce secretary pulls out of trade talks as president calls envoy ‘very stupid’
Transatlantic tensions over the British ambassador’s leaked criticisms of Donald Trump grew into a diplomatic crisis on Tuesday as the US president attacked Sir Kim Darroch as “a pompous fool” and his commerce secretary postponed planned trade talks with Liam Fox.


A day after Trump said he would no longer deal with Darroch following the release of UK diplomatic memos calling him “incompetent”, “inept” and “insecure”, he used his Twitter feed to attack the diplomat, who he described as “wacky” and “very stupid”.


The president also volleyed a series of insults at Theresa May, calling her “foolish” and saying her Brexit plan had been a disaster because she ignored his advice.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/donald-trump-calls-theresa-may-foolish-as-diplomatic-row-escalates

 

[OxygenJames]

Just for you OG - from the Adam Smith boys:

"The Guardian treats us to a complaint about Brexit. That if we go to free trade then that will mean screwing the British farmer. Good, that’s what we want to do, screw the British farmer. That’s one of the points of having Brexit:


There are some 30,000 farmers in the UK. And there are 65 million or so food consumers. Free trade would mean benefits for said consumers and would entirely screw those farmers. Good, let’s have free trade and screw the farmers.

No, spouting about how people want those higher food standards doesn’t work. For those who do want them will continue to buy that higher priced food. We’ll see how many people actually do want it by looking at how many British farmers stay in business after we’ve got free trade.

Entirely shafting the British farmer isn’t a problem with Brexit, it’s the point."

Of course you would take the side of the 30,000 against the 65 Million. Being as you're not actually that keen on majority rule.

(that's for the people leaving downward thumbs on the original post...)

 

[OxygenJames]

I would imagine JRM and his hedge fund mates are buying as many dollars as they possible can.

As too will your pension fund manager if he/she has any sense.

 

[flecc]

(that's for the people leaving downward thumbs on the original post...)

Nothing to do with minority rule. My "dislike" was of the huge damage to our economy that a collapse on our farming would occasion.

Not to mention how vulnerable we'd be in the event of war, just as we found ourselves in 1939. We shouldn't have to learn that lesson twice.
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[Fingers]

Johnson came over an even bigger hunt in that ITV debate if it’s possible

 

[oyster]

The van ice cream isn't made to any normal ice cream recipe. It's fundamentally milk and a form of very finely ground gelatine, mixed and chilled. That's why it's so white and fluffy.
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It is also warm - apparently about 4C.

 

[Nev]

Johnson came over an even bigger hunt in that ITV debate if it’s possible

I think Hunt won the debate, not that it will do him any good, BJ is going to be the next PM. I don't think BJ is capable of giving a straight answer to a straight question though, I also thought the presenter was not strong enough with him. She let him get away with just spouting waffle to many of the questions he was asked.

I don't think either of the candidates are any good, but Hunt would be a safer pair of hands than BJ, and he did a far better job of answering the questions this evening than BJ did.

 

[Fingers]

I think Hunt won the debate, not that it will do him any good, BJ is going to be the next PM. I don't think BJ is capable of giving a straight answer to a straight question though, I also thought the presenter was not strong enough with him. She let him get away with just spouting waffle to many of the questions he was asked.

I don't think either of the candidates are any good, but Hunt would be a safer pair of hands than BJ, and he did a far better job of answering the questions this evening than BJ did.

Agreed.

I used to know Julie quite well. She was at a very good friends wedding in 2003? Idk. Crazy wedding. In a castle in Cornwall, I brought 10 or 20 pills with me. We were there for two days over a new year so I needed to be loaded.

They were strong beans. She didn’t take any but anyway. I did. Wonderful.

She’s nice. But no way should she have held that debate. Was quite embarrassing. Although it did highlight Johnson as someone that sees females as lesser.

 

[50Hertz]

it appears that many farmers get more for not producing crops . There are 2 large fields near me. Every year they are full of sweetcorn and every year it is left to rot. I don't know the reason for this but can only assume it is something to do with the CAP. I personally think it is disgusting that good food is allowed to go to waste when people around the world are starving.

Farmers grow a 3 metre strip of sweet corn around the edges of their fields to form a screen. To the casual observer it just looks like a regular field of crop. However, beyond that 3 meter screen and towards the centre of the field grows a potential harvest which is much more lucrative than the corn. Cannabis. This is happening the length and breadth of the country, massive areas of outdoor cannabis cultivation is taking place. Once the cannabis is harvested, the corn is worthless and so it is left to rot.

 

[oldgroaner]

Agreed.

I used to know Julie quite well. She was at a very good friends wedding in 2003? Idk. Crazy wedding. In a castle in Cornwall, I brought 10 or 20 pills with me. We were there for two days over a new year so I needed to be loaded.

They were strong beans. She didn’t take any but anyway. I did. Wonderful.

She’s nice. But no way should she have held that debate. Was quite embarrassing. Although it did highlight Johnson as someone that sees females as lesser.

Not wise to publicly admit drug abuse , unless you want to be prime Minister

 

[oldgroaner]

Farmers grow a 3 metre strip of sweet corn around the edges of their fields to form a screen. To the casual observer it just looks like a regular field of crop. However, beyond that 3 meter screen and towards the centre of the field grows a potential harvest which is much more lucrative than the corn. Cannabis. This is happening the length and breadth of the country, massive areas of outdoor cannabis cultivation is taking place. Once the cannabis is harvested, the corn is worthless and so it is left to rot.

Since the crops are regularly overflown this seems unlikely

 

[50Hertz]

I think Hunt won the debate, not that it will do him any good, BJ is going to be the next PM. I don't think BJ is capable of giving a straight answer to a straight question though, I also thought the presenter was not strong enough with him. She let him get away with just spouting waffle to many of the questions he was asked.

All questioners and presenters let Johnson get away with non-relevant waffle and blatant question dodging. It drives me mad and I can’t watch it. He has to be the least straightforward politician I have ever seen or heard and there must be a reasons for him acting in this way. I believe that those reasons are, incompetence and no plan other than to be PM by any means.

 

[50Hertz]

Since the crops are regularly overflown this seems unlikely

Overflow by who?

 

[oldgroaner]

Nothing to do with minority rule. My "dislike" was of the huge damage to our economy that a collapse on our farming would occasion.

Not to mention how vulnerable we'd be in the event of war, just as we found ourselves in 1939. We shouldn't have to learn that lesson twice.
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Absolutely, that is why these so called clever people masquerading as "Think tanks"or "Research Institutes for Free Trade" simply to promote short term profits, are worth a division of first line troops to our enemies.
Tampering as they do with things they don't understand.

 

[Woosh]

All questioners and presenters let Johnson get away with non-relevant waffle and blatant question dodging. It drives me mad and I can’t watch it. He has to be the least straightforward politician I have ever seen or heard and there must be a reasons for him acting in this way. I believe that those reasons are, incompetence and no plan other than to be PM by any means.

Hunt asks Johnson if he would resign if he does not deliver Brexit by 31 October?
Johnson did not want to answer.

Apparently 74% of conservative members trust him. The rest of the country? I can't see him winning a public vote.

 

[OxygenJames]

Farmers grow a 3 metre strip of sweet corn around the edges of their fields to form a screen. To the casual observer it just looks like a regular field of crop. However, beyond that 3 meter screen and towards the centre of the field grows a potential harvest which is much more lucrative than the corn. Cannabis. This is happening the length and breadth of the country, massive areas of outdoor cannabis cultivation is taking place. Once the cannabis is harvested, the corn is worthless and so it is left to rot.

No way. The English weather does not support that at all. Do you just make this up as you go along?

 

[oldgroaner]

Overflow by who?

Anyone can use this
https://cropsat.com/
including the police

 

[OxygenJames]

Hunt asks Johnson if he would resign if he does not deliver Brexit by 31 October?
Johnson did not want to answer.

Apparently 74% of conservative members trust him. The rest of the country? I can't see him winning a public vote.

I see a general election coming. And then the fun really starts.