Oh Dear! I actually expressed surprise at the time that more people hadn't voted for leave (but I put that down to resentment of being ignored)
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I may be cynical but I think it's a sign of success for a few pioneers in disruptive technology applied to politics.
You see Steve Bannon, Dominic Cummings etc using it.
They change the way politics works. If we went back to the 70s before information technology was capable of mass influence, politics was about working in and running governments. Now it's about how many followers and retweets.
JRM reckons the ERG will shortly take over the government.
These people complaining about switching miles to kilometres in 1978 sound suspiciously like Brexiteers"Well I travel abroad alot, well when we go abroad, you don't get as much milage to it.
And therefore, you're going to use more petrol, and then they say... so many miles, but you're not going to do that. You're not going to do that because the kilomet... are not the same as the milage. "
JC... "John, it seems our chances of getting in power might have got a bit better, is there anything you can do to get them back to normal"
JM "Well, Jeremy, what about a letter to treasury saying if we get in we, d be starting a programmw of reducation for civil servants, helping them with new marxist theories of economics"
JC.. "Thats perfect John, should put voters off nicely"
JM.. "I, ll get on with it now"..
You couldnt make it up.
Nick Boles, the minister who utilised government funds for foreign language lessons so he could talk to his boyfriend is now the hero, well for his 10 minutes of fame anyway.
Its getting worse.. What a mess. Still reckon its no deal, thanks to remainers.
JM "Well, Jeremy, what about a letter to treasury saying if we get in we, d be starting a programmw of reducation for civil servants, helping them with new marxist theories of economics"
JC.. "Thats perfect John, should put voters off nicely"
JM.. "I, ll get on with it now"..
You couldnt make it up.
Nick Boles, the minister who utilised government funds for foreign language lessons so he could talk to his boyfriend is now the hero, well for his 10 minutes of fame anyway.
Its getting worse.. What a mess. Still reckon its no deal, thanks to remainers.
Although that's still the legal default, I think no deal is now much less likely to happen than say a month or so ago.
Some people think she will promise to leave once her deal gets through and so she will not be the one negotiation the next stage with the EU. Her hope being this will be enough to persuade most of the ERG to vote for her deal and she can finish saying that she has delivered Brexit. Without the DUP I still don't think she will have the numbers to get her deal through.
Yes but in common with many remainers (and i know youre reading this fingers), i would in fact at least half welcome a case for brexit. Not expediently, financially - intrinsically, existentially. How it in fact would make the uk a better place to live?Steady there! he is having to make a silk purse out of a Sows ear remember.
Imagine yourself in his position, you would be offering up a daily prayer along these lines...
"Lord Grant us all a Brexit,
So good, that even I
referring to it afterwards
Will not have need to lie!
Ho bleed'n Ho
Theres a reason brexit is slipping from leve voters fingers. Lack of substance. Its becoming glaringly obvious to the most deluded observer that this emperor is stark naked.
So what do you all think is the mostly likely thing to happen now regarding Brexit. Note I am asking what you all think is the most likely thing, and not what you want to happen. I think the most likely thing is a much softer Brexit (Common market 2.0). I would prefer no Brexit at all, but Common Market 2.0 would not be too bad, and I would not be surprised if in a few years we could be back in the EU as full members of a modified EU. Many countries in the EU are now starting to face up to some of the problems we have had with the EU, and so I think they will have to change.
But were they ignored? We had austerity, a very mild degree of deprivation and a blaming of al the wrong suspects (the eu, immigrants). I dont want to inflame any leave voters on the thread by putting that down to resentment of being ignorant
Your mess remember this statement
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Its getting worse.. What a mess. Still reckon its no deal, thanks to remainers."
Is your biggest lie yet.
Own up to what is the result of your rash decision and quit blaming anyone else.
Oh I shouldn't worry about inflaming leavers,
No danger of Spontaneous combustion there, we see demonstrated every day, the best they can do is steam a little like a compost heap
Tricky, Tory front has shifted subtly since petition from Brexit come-what-may beacuse it's the 'Will of People' to 'It is in our manifesto' - but still Brexit in some shape or form while it's in their hands as Govt.
So realistically at this stage really really soft Brexit - but ideally somehow revoking Article 50 by one vote cast by Bercow!
Guardian say may offered to resign in return for erg support for her deal last weekend at chequers. What is it about her deal that makes passing it such an all consuming khamikaze compulsion to her/her supporters? Are we missing something?
She's a woman!
Many women won't change their minds, they claim this imaginary quality they call intuition which makes them certain they cannot possibly be wrong.*
Margaret Thatcher was a prime example, and the EU had the same trouble with her. They made the mistake of giving in to her, but they won't make that mistake now.
Fortunately our administrator HelenJ isn't like that so she won't delete this post (hopefully!
).* I blame the Victorians, they had a code of good manners which included the maxim that one must never tell a lady that she is wrong, only at most that she might have been misled. (by a man of course)
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They've staked everything on achieving Brexit (within red lines as per their manifesto https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto ) and will sell their grandmother / hack a limb or two off to protect to the end their Party even when in meltdown with multople core breaches in progress. May is willingly expendable ( she's already made that clear re she won't be around for a GE) but she's sold her soul to the 1922 Committee to carry out Brexit to the end like the foootballer the other week refusing to leave the pitch until the game was over. A change of leader is certain in April if and when anything is decided or a delay comes into play again.
She's a woman!
Many women won't change their minds, they claim this imaginary quality they call intuition which makes them certain they cannot possibly be wrong.*
Margaret Thatcher was a prime example, and the EU had the same trouble with her. They made the mistake of giving in to her, but they won't make that mistake now.
Fortunately our administrator HelenJ isn't like that so she won't delete this post (hopefully!
* I blame the Victorians, they had a code of good manners which included the maxim that one must never tell a lady that she is wrong, only at most that she might have been misled. (by a man of course)
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I was under the impression flec said it was mens' fault for misleading women? :^(
Rubbish. This, like anti-semitic, is stupidly trotted out at any adverse comment against either party. No-one on this planet is immune from criticism when wrong.
And haven't you noticed the incredible level of misandry from women these days? What's ok for one is good for the other.
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